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#16 FixItCharlie OFFLINE  

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Posted February 04, 2015 - 09:46 PM

Was there rubber couplers at the drive shaft connections. It definitely looks it really put a lot of stress on the bolts & stretched them.

 

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Posted February 04, 2015 - 09:52 PM

I don't  think they were  rubber but some kind of material. 



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Posted February 04, 2015 - 10:05 PM

It should have been a rubber with nylon fibers in it. This would have been round with 8 holes. 4 holes used for one side of the drive shaft coupling & the other 4 is how the other part of the drive shaft is mounted.

 

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Posted February 05, 2015 - 05:31 AM

Just a bit out of line can cause this. That and no rubber couplers. Here's a pic of a cylinder and valve with lines attached. See if the lines you need are on there.

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This is off a closed side Ford.

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Posted February 05, 2015 - 07:15 AM

Kenny the line from the middle of the valve to to the bottom of the lift cylinder is one, the other line is the steel one that's missing.I think they had the right couplers, they just didn't  look like rubber to me.



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Posted February 05, 2015 - 07:24 AM

The line missing may still be on the tractor out back. The one to the cylinder should be easy to have a new one made.

If I am correct, the Jacobsen/Fords used a 3 bolt system on the drive shaft, so the rubber couplers would have 6 holes in them. Finding the driveshaft adapter for the engine end may be something one of our sponsors might have.


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Posted February 05, 2015 - 07:33 AM

Could I get a rubber hose made instead of the steel. 



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Posted February 05, 2015 - 07:37 AM

Probably! Might be a little harder to hook up though. I'll see if that other line is still on the tractor.



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Posted February 05, 2015 - 07:43 AM

Thanks kenny



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Posted February 05, 2015 - 02:07 PM

OK, failure came from coupler to engine, and miss alignment together. The bolts for the CH are smaller than the K series, so there is first issue, second is the miss alignment and mickey mouse engine mounting( shivering). That stuff needs to be correct or it will tear things up again.
You can easily use hose instead of steel tube, but it needs to routed correctly or it may get chaffed or pinched ans ruin it.
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Posted February 05, 2015 - 02:13 PM

I found the other line. It is still attached to the inline filter. Is your filter inline or a screw on?



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Posted February 05, 2015 - 02:31 PM

It's screwed.


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Posted February 05, 2015 - 04:42 PM

The line missing may still be on the tractor out back. The one to the cylinder should be easy to have a new one made.

If I am correct, the Jacobsen/Fords used a 3 bolt system on the drive shaft, so the rubber couplers would have 6 holes in them. Finding the driveshaft adapter for the engine end may be something one of our sponsors might have.

Beast, I have that coupler. I am re-powering to a vanguard 20 HP V-twin. I have been successful with my previous re-power until it lost three cam teeth. Not an alignment issue. What part of Ohio are you in? I am visiting the folks in Milford near Cinnci in mid March for spring break if you want me to bring it and meet and save shipping if your close enough.

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Posted February 05, 2015 - 09:41 PM

Barry aren't you supposed to go south for spring break? I'm just east of Akron so shipping will definitely be cheaper. did you have it on a command or something else?



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Posted February 05, 2015 - 11:51 PM

Barry aren't you supposed to go south for spring break? I'm just east of Akron so shipping will definitely be cheaper. did you have it on a command or something else?

My first re-power was still a Kohler. I went from the 16 to an opposed twin 18 that a buddy gave me. I had to pull out the PTO shaft. Left cylinder was in the way. Mowed like a bad dog but I couldn't use the tiller. But that motor is toast. The Vanguard was a freeby as well, so....... we'll try this re-power thing again. Oh trust me, if I had a say so, I'd go south. But I have kids and momma plans these trips. The kiddos wanna see gramma and grandpa anyway. What's a dad to do? :D






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