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#1 txdieseldog OFFLINE  

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Posted February 02, 2015 - 02:47 PM

Getting into things here after being on for a couple of weeks. Almost everyday I come up with something that you guys could help with due to experience, or possibly it's your job. Today's help would be this: I have a closed side Jac., KennyP and maybe others, (slept since then) have hinted it is the larger 16 HP set-up. I purchased AG tires for it and am having troubles getting the bead to seat on the left one. They were both aired up but it has sat for some time. The tires are still almost new, even now. They are hard and stiff. I squeezed them with a cargo strap the first time, but only worked on the right one this go round. Any crazy tips out there?

 

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Any help would be great. Thanks

Barry


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#2 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted February 02, 2015 - 03:13 PM

I use this stuff to help the beads seal up.


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Posted February 02, 2015 - 03:23 PM

Kenny, had a feeling you'd chime in. Is it used to just create a wet area the air won't pass? Bead area slicker to pop on the rim? Soften the rubber to conform better? Or don't have a clue, it just works? lol  :D



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Posted February 02, 2015 - 03:31 PM

The bead sealer helps, grease will work in a pinch too. Soapy water will help the rubber slide on the wheel. I use a male quick connect air fitting over the stem with the core removed to get more air in quicker. The stiff sidewall ags can be tough to mount and may need  the ratchet strap, a few extra hands and a big rubber mallet to get it started.


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Posted February 02, 2015 - 03:35 PM

The bead sealer is kind of a glue 9for want of a better word). But it will help stop bead leaks.



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Posted February 02, 2015 - 03:38 PM

I like what tater1195 said  but add a bit. I put the wheel on my changer with the valve stem up and mount the tire loose onto it. I then dry the lower tire and wheel beads with a clean rag and some time. I then push the lower beads together fully. I then only have to fight with the upper. Removing the valve stem core helps alot and upping the air pressure does too. I use strapps and hands pulling up. Eventually, you will win. Good Luck, Rick 


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Posted February 02, 2015 - 04:27 PM

Good tried & true methods already mentioned. I would say the most important is removing the valve stem for getting that good BLAST of air. Basically it's just a good wrestling match that you'll win sooner or later. :D


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Posted February 02, 2015 - 04:50 PM

Good tried & true methods already mentioned. I would say the most important is removing the valve stem for getting that good BLAST of air. Basically it's just a good wrestling match that you'll win sooner or later. :D


I agree , valve stem open and lots of air pressure.

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Posted February 02, 2015 - 04:54 PM

   there is another way but I do not recommend trying it !!!!!!!!!!   AGAIN I DO NOT RECOMEND THIS !!!!!!  but I have done this and it does work for stubborn tires.  take a can of starting fluid, place the tire OUTSIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!  on the ground with the stubborn bead side up, spray just a very small amount of the starting fluid into the tire, then stand back and throw matched into the space.  POP !!!! your rim will be up on the bead.  leave the valve stem out and be very careful !!!!!!!  I have seen this way tear tires to pieces and people get hurt doing this.

    Please for mine and your sake if you careful and go very sparingly on the starting fluid.

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Posted February 02, 2015 - 05:07 PM

I would take the above advice. However I fought some front tires till I was blue. When you get some of these tires they are flat and wrinkled. I finally resorted to this method and had the job done in five minutes. Again, please be very cautious. I sprayed the ether in the tire then onto the ground for a couple feet then light that end of it. Good luck.

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Posted February 02, 2015 - 05:09 PM

You could use a tube.



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Posted February 02, 2015 - 05:11 PM

Tires that fight me like that, I just tube. WAY easier than arguing with it and for the cost of a tube, it's not worth the high blood pressure or the ether.
Eventually, if they are hard, they will start leaking anyways, might as well save one step in the process.
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Posted February 02, 2015 - 06:43 PM

I wouldn't put a tube in a tire with one bead not seated, sometimes adding a tube still won't seat the bead.

 

This is not how you do it. Hands too close.


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Posted February 02, 2015 - 07:53 PM

No hair on his hands :rolling:


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