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#1 superaben OFFLINE  

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Posted February 01, 2015 - 10:44 PM

Well, I think I screwed up. 

 

I jumped onto a Massey 14 sitting here for some repair work the other day, and after it got warmed up I went to cock the wheels to get out of the tight hole it was jammed into.  I guess either the wheels were frozen to the ground (which was the case with my trailer and another machine I had to move) or something else was frozen up. 

 

I heard a pop, and then the daggone steering wheel spun free.

 

I figure I busted up the gear box, since nothing is moving downstream from it, and maybe in the cold it had moisture in it and froze. 

 

I haven't had the heart to look yet, but is there possibly a shear key or maybe something else simple that might have blown up on me? 

 

If not, who has a good parts gearbox?

 

Ben W.



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Posted February 01, 2015 - 11:02 PM

Just looked at agcopartsbook.

I didn't see any key or pin in there.

There is that adjusting screw on the side

of the steering box. Maybe the worn down tip

on it snapped off.


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Posted February 01, 2015 - 11:07 PM

Ben, here's a pic of an MF12 steering column that sold recently. It looks to be a Ross steering box. If it's the same as yours, there is really not much to them. There is a worm gear in the box and an adjustable pin that threads into the plate that your drag link attaches to. Many garden tractors used this type of steering box including the older Cub Cadets and John Deers. The worm gears come in two or three turn types from what I've seen. Are you sure the tie rod end on the drag link didn't pop out at the steering box end?

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Posted February 01, 2015 - 11:53 PM

I'm hoping for something simple.  I was mainly hoping someone would come along and encourage me that I have not really screwed up in a nasty way.  :firejumper:

 

I doubt if it is just a tie rod end going bonzai.  Usually if that is the case, the steering wheel will stop when the sector gear hits the stops. 

 

If it is a Ross box, I'll be in good shape fixing it.  I couldn't tell from the parts list what I was looking at. 

 

If I need a steering box, does any have on lying loose?

 

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Posted February 02, 2015 - 08:00 AM

Well, I think I screwed up. 

 

I jumped onto a Massey 14 sitting here for some repair work the other day, and after it got warmed up I went to cock the wheels to get out of the tight hole it was jammed into.  I guess either the wheels were frozen to the ground (which was the case with my trailer and another machine I had to move) or something else was frozen up. 

 

I heard a pop, and then the daggone steering wheel spun free.

 

I figure I busted up the gear box, since nothing is moving downstream from it, and maybe in the cold it had moisture in it and froze. 

 

I haven't had the heart to look yet, but is there possibly a shear key or maybe something else simple that might have blown up on me? 

 

If not, who has a good parts gearbox?

 

Ben W.

Isn't the tractor on ice waiting to melt through the same? I had one brake where it was the bolt that is attached to the cover plate. All I had to do was take it out and apart and then weld it together. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted February 02, 2015 - 08:03 AM

I suppose the steering wheel could be spinning on the

splined shaft too, if it wasn't tightened down properly.



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Posted February 02, 2015 - 08:14 AM

About the only way the shaft can spin free is for the worm follower to break off.
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Posted February 02, 2015 - 08:37 AM

About the only way the shaft can spin free is for the worm follower to break off.

 

Yes, "worm follower". That's the term I was looking for earlier. I called

it adjusting screw. I've found a couple that where worn down to a flat, and looked

almost like those machined hex slot screwdriver bits. They're supposed to have

a bullet shaped tip.

It's a bit tough to get at, but you should be able to get that follower out of the steering

box, without taking the box out of the MF. Grind a new tip on it, and put it back.


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Posted February 02, 2015 - 11:17 AM

I have a Massey 10 parts tractor; if the 10 and 14 have the same box I would be willing to sell the box. Just let me know if you end up needing it.


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Posted February 03, 2015 - 08:30 PM

Yes, "worm follower". That's the term I was looking for earlier. I called

it adjusting screw. I've found a couple that where worn down to a flat, and looked

almost like those machined hex slot screwdriver bits. They're supposed to have

a bullet shaped tip.

It's a bit tough to get at, but you should be able to get that follower out of the steering

box, without taking the box out of the MF. Grind a new tip on it, and put it back.

 

Thankfully they are easy to get into. 

 

I'll get it inside and find out what I did. 

 

Thanks for your help, Will.

 

Ben W.


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Posted February 03, 2015 - 08:59 PM

Thankfully they are easy to get into. 
 
I'll get it inside and find out what I did. 
 
Thanks for your help, Will.
 
Ben W.


Grab a flashlight and get to it. It's almost above freezing there! Downright tropical!


Hope it's an easy fix, Ben.
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Posted February 03, 2015 - 11:28 PM

If the 10/12 and the 14 have the same box, someone let us know.

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Posted February 04, 2015 - 10:02 AM

There are rebuilt ross steering boxes and columns on ebay right now. Looking up Ross Steering box Cub Cadet.

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Posted February 14, 2015 - 01:39 PM

Ben, what do you ever find out on this steering gear box?
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Posted March 04, 2015 - 06:38 AM

Ben, what do you ever find out on this steering gear box?

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