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#1 ks65609 OFFLINE  

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Posted January 31, 2015 - 12:59 AM

Hello from Ontario Canada

 

I am looking at purchasing a restored 1966 Moto Mower tractor . The owner informed me of an issue with transmission, described as " the input shaft turns however nothing will engage ".  I have searched numerous internet sites for information, including ebay for used components, and have not been successful in finding answers or parts. I have not physically seen the tractor as it is some distance from my location although the owner has been very cooperative with information and numerous up to date photos. I am hooked on this little tractor but do not wish to get in over my head with something I am unable to repair. I should mention the transmission has been repaired previously and has quit working.

 

I would very much appreciate any insight and advice from the forums membership.

 

 

Thanks very much

Ken


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Posted January 31, 2015 - 06:32 AM

Hi

Welcome to GTT.

I'm not totally familiar with all the various models of the

Moto-Mowers, but I do know that some are identical

to the early Massey Ferguson executive series. For instance, this

model 6024 has the same tranny as the MF7E and MF8E.

 

P1010119.JPG P1010740.JPG

 

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If that is the tranny you have in the 6064, you won't find new parts if needed.

You can however find parts machines out there, or even a complete used

tranny.

Come to think of it, I believe Ben ( Superaben ) just got his hands on

a load of parts.

http://gardentractor...aths-equipment/

 

Also, Dwain ( Motobreeder ) is very knowledgeable on these MMs.

 

Do you have a picture of the 6064?


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Posted January 31, 2015 - 07:54 AM

A "restored" tractor wouldnt have a blown transaxle i would approach with caution. You best bet and only is finding a used one. They pop up on ebay once and awhile.
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Posted January 31, 2015 - 09:33 AM

As already mentioned "restored" and "not working" feel like conflicting statements.

 

I can't find 6064, I'm guessing maybe a model 6024.  That would have an 8HP Kohler.

 

Never had to tear-down a transaxle.  Another member here (in Sask.) is looking for the differential gears and may have to have some shipped from the USA.

 

Also, not aware of any common failures or a failure that would behave like that.

I have heard of someone breaking the shift lever.  I'm guessing that would feel obvious.

 

 

 

Here's a break-down of the transmission (from my 6020 manual).

Seeing how simple the setup is could help figure out if it's a major issue.

motomower trans pg1 of 2.jpg

 


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Posted January 31, 2015 - 09:46 AM

I can't find anything on 6064 either.



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Posted January 31, 2015 - 11:30 AM

They are cool little tractors.  If you really like it and have the room and no pressing need to use it, and get it for a good price, you could keep it around to look at until you find the parts to fix it.  If you don't have the room or the price is too high maybe not, good luck 



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Posted January 31, 2015 - 12:10 PM

There's a moto-mower for parts in Boston.

http://boston.craigs...4868088343.html

 

I noticed the ad months ago.  The price has been coming down and at $75 looks very reasonable.

(if it were near me, I'd buy it for the parts)



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Posted January 31, 2015 - 12:31 PM

There you go problem solved. Very reasonable for the parts

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Posted January 31, 2015 - 02:38 PM

Hi

Welcome to GTT.

I'm not totally familiar with all the various models of the

Moto-Mowers, but I do know that some are identical

to the early Massey Ferguson executive series. For instance, this

model 6024 has the same tranny as the MF7E and MF8E.

 

attachicon.gifP1010119.JPGattachicon.gifP1010740.JPG

 

attachicon.gifP1010355.JPGattachicon.gifDone01 (5).JPG

 

If that is the tranny you have in the 6064, you won't find new parts if needed.

You can however find parts machines out there, or even a complete used

tranny.

Come to think of it, I believe Ben ( Superaben ) just got his hands on

a load of parts.

http://gardentractor...aths-equipment/

 

Also, Dwain ( Motobreeder ) is very knowledgeable on these MMs.

 

Do you have a picture of the 6064?

Thanks for the response. 

First let me correct the information I have provided

The model is 6024 and the serial number is K10756. It looks exactly like the one in your picture. I will certainly follow up on your link

Thanks

Ken


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Posted January 31, 2015 - 02:40 PM

A "restored" tractor wouldnt have a blown transaxle i would approach with caution. You best bet and only is finding a used one. They pop up on ebay once and awhile.

Thanks for the response. I may have used the incorrect terminology. I will post a picture if I can figure out how to do it.

 

Thanks

Ken



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Posted January 31, 2015 - 02:48 PM

As already mentioned "restored" and "not working" feel like conflicting statements.

 

I can't find 6064, I'm guessing maybe a model 6024.  That would have an 8HP Kohler.

 

Never had to tear-down a transaxle.  Another member here (in Sask.) is looking for the differential gears and may have to have some shipped from the USA.

 

Also, not aware of any common failures or a failure that would behave like that.

I have heard of someone breaking the shift lever.  I'm guessing that would feel obvious.

 

 

 

Here's a break-down of the transmission (from my 6020 manual).

Seeing how simple the setup is could help figure out if it's a major issue.

attachicon.gifmotomower trans pg1 of 2.jpg

Thanks for the response.

Here again I may have used the incorrect terminology. Thankyou very much for the schematic. As I posted above I was in error with the model number which is a 6024, serial number K10756.

According to the current owner, a gear was repaired and the tractor was working fine, however now the transmission will not engage. The tractor moves freely with no differential noise or resistance. 

I am thinking maybe something has come loose like a snap ring but I have never had one apart to really understand the mechanism.

Thanks

Ken



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Posted January 31, 2015 - 02:55 PM

I can't find anything on 6064 either.

Sorry, I posted the incorrect information.

It is a model 6024, serial number K10756

Thanks

Ken


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Posted January 31, 2015 - 03:17 PM

As already mentioned "restored" and "not working" feel like conflicting statements.

 

I can't find 6064, I'm guessing maybe a model 6024.  That would have an 8HP Kohler.

 

Never had to tear-down a transaxle.  Another member here (in Sask.) is looking for the differential gears and may have to have some shipped from the USA.

 

Also, not aware of any common failures or a failure that would behave like that.

I have heard of someone breaking the shift lever.  I'm guessing that would feel obvious.

 

 

 

Here's a break-down of the transmission (from my 6020 manual).

Seeing how simple the setup is could help figure out if it's a major issue.

 

attachicon.gifmotomower trans pg1 of 2.jpg

 

 

Thank you very much

Would you happen to have the other side with the part numbers as well ?

Ken



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Posted January 31, 2015 - 03:20 PM

I wish to thank all who responded so quickly and with very good information.

If I can figure out how I need to edit the title of the post to model 6024.

 

I have never participated in such an active forum and I very much appreciated the sincerity with which all who took the time responded.

 

Ken


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Posted January 31, 2015 - 03:34 PM

I'm not going to ask about the $s, but it could be a good or bad deal.

Could be what's leftover after restoring another one -or- one defect from being perfect.

 

If you decide to go look, should have a cast-aluminum steering wheel, rear fenders and stamped-steel seat.  There are lots of good examples on the web.  Always worth-while if it's not too far.

 

 

Other issues to consider:

The battery cover and the belt guard (right-side) are often missing.

The connection between the hinge and the hood is a weak-spot.  Many have had to be beefed up.

Sometimes where the hood fastens at the steering column, the welds may break.

I've seen folks looking for the throttle and choke linkages.  They will break if you try to force rusty cables.

Does it have the original motor - an 8hp Kohler with a starter/generator.

 

 

Here's the part-numbers page for the transmission:

motomower trans pg2 of 2.jpg


Edited by motobreeder, January 31, 2015 - 03:36 PM.





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