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#1 OLDIRONLINDY OFFLINE  

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Posted December 31, 2014 - 03:14 PM

Does anyone know if there is any connection between these three company's? I have heard that IHC dealers sold Wagner's before the Cub Cadet came out and the similarity in the sheet metal on a 560 Farmall and a Wagner makes a guy wonder if there was a connection. Also have heard guys say that the Wagner was a IHC prototype but I doubt that is true. Also the similarity between the Magna tractors and the Wagner's makes me wonder if there was a connection there. Any one have any info? I have 3 Magna's and many Cubs but have not found a Wagner yet. One of my Magna's is shown on the second shelf in the pic.

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Posted December 31, 2014 - 03:31 PM

I have no answers for you, but was wondering what the tractor in the right rear corner of the picture is ?  McCormick Deering, Fordson?    Noel



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Posted December 31, 2014 - 04:00 PM

Noel, from the size I would say it's a McCormick Deering, 10-20 maybe?


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Posted December 31, 2014 - 05:12 PM

Noel, from the size I would say it's a McCormick Deering, 10-20 maybe?

 

Seconded.  :thumbs:

 

A tractor like that is on my lust list.  I want one since my great-great grandfather had one as his only tractor. 

 

Ben W.


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Posted December 31, 2014 - 08:25 PM

IHC contracted with Wagner Iron and Metal to design a garden tractor styled after an IH tractor. IHC did not approve or like the Wagner built unit. Wagner went on to sell the tractor under there own name. IHC then built there own tractor called "Cub Cadet"

IHC never sold a Wagner. Also Wagner and Magna are two different tractor, but do look similar.


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Posted January 01, 2015 - 07:37 AM

That would be a 1930 McCormick Deering 22-36, I also have a 10-20 on full steel but it is in much worse shape. back to the original topic, so was there ever a Wagner that was badged IHC? Or do people just restore them to look like mini 560's? I have seen several at shows like this. 


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Posted January 01, 2015 - 09:40 AM

If you are talking about looking like this:

 

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I think that's the way they were painted from the factory.
 
 I know that the one I picked up for Ben was red and white, and it was obviously in original colors.
 
It might also explain why the Cub Cadets were yellow and white instead of red and white like one would have expected.

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Posted January 01, 2015 - 11:11 AM

Another reason why cubs were yellow and white could be the fact that they were introduced at the same time that the 140 farm tractor was being produced. A lot of 140's were used for municipal duties so they came in yellow and white colors.


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