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#1 bryan 110 OFFLINE  

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Posted December 27, 2014 - 12:08 PM

Ok after fixing my shifter I started my wheeler and noticed a lot of slop in the shift it has always been sloppy but now it seems to just slide in gear and will almost fall out by its self. Any fix to this?
Trans sounds fine and all gears work just super sloppy

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Posted December 27, 2014 - 01:59 PM

Does "Wheeler" mean something besides a Garden tractor here?  Can you ID brand of transaxle we are talking about or at least the brand and model  of your vehicle?  Many times slotted items just wear out and need replaced, OR, if you worked on already, maybe you have Missed the slot and even tho it still moves for you and shifts, it is not in the correct installed position?



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Posted December 27, 2014 - 02:10 PM

sounds like you lost the detent ball



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Posted December 27, 2014 - 02:59 PM

Does "Wheeler" mean something besides a Garden tractor here?  Can you ID brand of transaxle we are talking about or at least the brand and model  of your vehicle?  Many times slotted items just wear out and need replaced, OR, if you worked on already, maybe you have Missed the slot and even tho it still moves for you and shifts, it is not in the correct installed position?


I know it's vague, but this is in the WH forum do I assume this is a Wheel Horse trans.

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Posted December 27, 2014 - 04:36 PM

There is or, should be a set screw on top of the tranny where the shifter goes through the case.
Check that it's not missing or backed out too far.

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Posted December 27, 2014 - 05:17 PM

What model WH is it? That will tell us what model trans axle it has in it. It sounds like the detent ball is gone.

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Posted December 27, 2014 - 07:44 PM

Those detent balls and springs are very easy to loose and (thankfully) cheap to replace.

 

I do have them in stock as long as it is going into one of the common Peerless transmissions if you need them.

 

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Posted December 27, 2014 - 08:35 PM

Did they use the same Peerless that was used in the John Deere 110 and Massey MF10 and MF12 gear drives? If so I replaced the detent balls and springs on mine and it wasn't bad at all.



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Posted December 27, 2014 - 09:50 PM

WHManual trans are made in house. I agree check the set screw first.
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Posted December 27, 2014 - 10:33 PM

Yes wheel horse it's 654. I have no knoladge at all about wheelhorse tractors. Is that "ball" on the shifter itself ? If it is there is still a ball on the end of that. And the shift leaver is still in the hole I pulled the leaver out from seemed ok not perfect but ok.? Maybe I should just sell the thing!????

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Posted December 28, 2014 - 03:41 AM

Your testing my memory a bit here.
But, I recall that there is a ball bearing, a spring, and, a set screw.
They go into the boss on top of the transmission case that the shift lever sticks out of.
It's either in the front or the back of the boss. If you don't see it try brushing it clean.
Their common hardware parts.

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Posted December 28, 2014 - 10:31 AM

That has a Unidrive transmission. The detent balls on that one are inside the transmission and won't be your problem. It's almost certainly the dog point setscrew located where the shifter goes into the transmission. It's a 1/4-20 with a nut to lock it in place. Lift the rubber shifter boot and you'll see it. Use a allen wrench (I believe 1/8") and snug it in until you like the shifter feel. Hold the allen wrench in place and tighten down on the nut with a 7/16" wrench. If the shifter binds any as you shift into gear back it off just a fuzz. You should be good to go.

 

If it goes beyond that fix you're going to have to get inside the transmission. It really isn't difficult.


Edited by Racinbob, December 28, 2014 - 10:33 AM.

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Posted December 28, 2014 - 10:39 AM

You mentioned that you removed the shifter. Before you adjust the set screw make sure the shifter forks are aligned correctly like in the picture. There's a hole in the front of the collar on the shifter. The set screw runs into that hole. As you gently tighten the set screw you'll feel when it's in the hole and then proceed with the adjustment.

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