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#31 dodge trucker ONLINE  

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Posted December 17, 2014 - 10:47 PM

not quite. In '94+ "Mazda" trucks (which were really a Ranger with a different grille and badging-- it was stamped "Ford Motor Company" all over it, even)   their engines were EXACTLY the same as a "real" Ranger of the same year... B 2500 wasa 2.5 4 banger

a B 3000 wasa Ford 3 Liter and a B 4000 was a Ford 4.0, same 4.0 in the same year Exploder or Ranger! 

 

In the 70s when you could buy a Courier (I think they were sold here in the States til ~83ish)  same 2.3 that was in the Pinto or mustang II



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Posted December 17, 2014 - 11:32 PM

 

 

When you can get that kind of mileage and versatility it makes a small truck pretty pointless.

I don't know where my Sport-Trac fits into this as it appears to be longer than the Daughters Yukon but narrower. Certainly gets better mileage, turns tighter, and is much easier to park between two 3/4 ton pickups at the mall. This is the reason that the full sized PU gets used for my "go for" truck but not the go to town truck. Actually the Jeep Wrangler was the most fun to drive in town as it could almost turn around and bite itself in the backside. It appears that vehicles are like cloths, we buy what appeals to us and hope we're happy with it when we get home.  


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Posted December 18, 2014 - 07:11 AM

That's an honest to goodness number.  If I was a betting man though I would say it was the gearing.  And the fact that it was a Level 2 FX4 and it had factory 31x10.50-15 tires on it probably didn't help it either, (mileage and ride).  Truck before it was a 92 S10 that they bought new, extended cab 4wd with a 4.3 and a 4 speed automatic.  They used that truck like a half ton and it never let them down.

 

And I am not just some Ford bashing guy either.  Up until 3 years ago all the vehicles I've owned were Ford's.  I'd love to have my 89 Bronco II back.  That thing would go almost anywhere, it had the perfect mix of power and gearing.  Compared to the wifes Liberty it was a tank!

 

I'd say that had a lot to do with it!

 

The FX models had 4.10 gears, where the base 4.0 or 3.0s had 3.55, or 3.73.

 

At one time my XLT 3.0 5 speed had a body lift, suspension lift, and 33" tires, my mileage tanked.  After the tires wore out I took the body lift off, left the suspension lift since I paid 1500 bucks for it and went back to stock tire size.


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Posted December 18, 2014 - 07:19 AM

Diesels are great if you match them well to the truck, the only reason thy haven't been widely available is because people didn't buy them.

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Posted December 18, 2014 - 09:35 AM

According to a friend of mine who just retired from GM, they will be offering a 6 cylinder Duramax with a Allison transmission in the Colorado and Canyon in the near future. They are still testing it. Will be interesting to see this. I can imagine the pulling power it has as well as torque. I was at the gas station the other day and saw a Jeep Liberty with a diesel in it. Never knew that. If they still made a small pickup with a diesel in it they would sell a lot of them.

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My wife works at the G.M plant were the make the colorado and brought home a copy of motor trend  mag.  dated february 2015.they gave every one  a copy and in it says"There are currently two engines to choose from : a 2.5 liter four -cylinder and 3.6-liter v6 .Next year chevy will introduce a 2.8 - liter turbodiesel  I-4,Slightly modified from the overseas market" I was reading this and she walk in the door with the mag.


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Posted December 18, 2014 - 09:38 AM

Diesels are great if you match them well to the truck, the only reason thy haven't been widely available is because people didn't buy them.

 

My boss was leaving last night to head back to ohio for the evening in his 2011 GMC Duramax.  3rd time it went into limp mode because of a failed DPF.  He only made it about 5k miles since the last one failed. 

 

I wanted a diesel badly when I was in the market for a new truck, but the emission laws are KILLING these trucks. 



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Posted December 18, 2014 - 10:00 AM

If I had to buy a mid size truck right now It would be tough I would have to find one with lots of leg room Toyota makes a great truck and it proble more American made then it's counter parts fe ford or Chevy or dodge I have had a few for rangers an 86 a 91 a 95 my current truck is a 90 Chevy 1500 with a 4.3 but it sits more then it gets driven that's why it only have 112 k on it and I'm the second owner wish it was 4wx but it not . I really don't want a new truck I can't see spending 40 k for a truck . New car and truck prices are out of hand if you ask me

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Posted December 18, 2014 - 08:34 PM

Assembled in the USA is NOT the same as MADE in USA.  



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Posted December 18, 2014 - 08:41 PM

Assembled in the USA is NOT the same as MADE in USA.

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Looks Honda Ridgeline has more American and Canadian parts than a chevy or dodge....

Kind of funny huh?

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Posted December 19, 2014 - 06:04 PM

but the PROFITS on that Ridgeline (which is ugly anyway no matter brand or where it's made) go back to the parent company which is not based here.... so they get reinvested somewhere other than in the country that we live in, pay taxes to, and such....



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Posted December 19, 2014 - 06:10 PM

No matter how you slice the pie it always goes other places

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Posted December 19, 2014 - 06:27 PM

Just in case one of the auto manufacturer's design teams is reading this, I just want a early Dakota sized truck with fwd, a 3 or 4 cylinder diesel (90-110 hp) with a 5 speed, and 3/4 ton capacity. Don't get fancy, I just want a cab and chassis. Okay, an aluminum flatbed that is 72" wide and 7' long if we're getting technical.

 

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Posted December 19, 2014 - 11:35 PM

Anyone check lately and see how many tire manufacturers are owned by Americans. Your in for a shock.



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Posted December 20, 2014 - 08:04 AM

but the PROFITS on that Ridgeline (which is ugly anyway no matter brand or where it's made) go back to the parent company which is not based here.... so they get reinvested somewhere other than in the country that we live in, pay taxes to, and such....

 

 

So you are saying when Dodge buys foreign parts to put into their "AMERICAN MADE" truck its different?

 

No The Foreign company profits from the sale of parts, and an "American" Company which is owned mostly by an Italian Company profits when a vehicle is sold.

 

There are no American vehicles.  At the end of the day, a Honda Ridgeline is assembled by Americans, and has more parts made by Americans than your Dodge Ram pick up.  No matter how you slice it.  Ugly junk or not.



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Posted December 20, 2014 - 08:22 AM

That is a interesting chart,,,i did not realize how much of these trucks were outsourced. Still odd seeing 5 year old dodges and fords with the paint falling off the lower body panels and giving way to rot while the rest of the paint on the truck shines like new.

 

Disclosure: I drive a '91 Toyota truck built by J.A. Pan and sons 


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