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#16 OldBuzzard ONLINE  

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Posted December 02, 2014 - 07:08 PM

I think you are right Brian.

 

It LOOKED like the drive pulley has two different sizes, but now I'm not so sure.


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Posted December 02, 2014 - 08:01 PM

I probably should have included that the back cover is the short style with the heavy 'U' that the cover & seat pan bolts down to.  Seat pan was originally red and still is.  Also the seat pan is the low back style.  For what it's worth but don't know if that helps any.



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Posted December 02, 2014 - 08:03 PM

I think you are right Brian.

 

It LOOKED like the drive pulley has two different sizes, but now I'm not so sure.

Drive pulley does NOT have two sizes.  Both are the same size.



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Posted December 02, 2014 - 08:32 PM

 

 

looks like we have a bit of a frankenstein machine going on here.

Dash has been replaced and does not match the frame.... 6Speed Trans , Decals, Shifter lever & Knobs and white paint under the mop job all point to what most likely was either a Bolens 1053,1054,1253 or 1254  originally.

 

Agreed !!   .....Also, shift knob is a threaded knob.  .....Later models had a slip-on grip.

 

Having been originally equipped with a Wisconsin engine would eliminate the 1253 as a possibility. 

 

Could the dash have been from a G14, since that is the extra hood?   .....The circuit breaker looks to have been added by a previous owner.


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Posted December 02, 2014 - 08:44 PM

Agreed !!   .....Also, shift knob is a threaded knob.  .....Later models had a slip-on grip.

 

Having been originally equipped with a Wisconsin engine would eliminate the 1253 as a possibility. 

 

Could the dash have been from a G14, since that is the extra hood?   .....The circuit breaker looks to have been added by a previous owner.

The shift knob is threaded.  The circuit breaker I do not believe is original as it has a fender washer under the nut to hold it to the dash.



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Posted December 02, 2014 - 09:53 PM

But didn't the 1053 and 1054 have the wider and longer back cover and the tool box under the seat?


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Posted December 02, 2014 - 10:54 PM

Let me point out the biggest clue to this cross-breed machine. Pic #4 with solenoid mounted on the Rear Panel did not happen on the 1053's but I know did happen on the 1254's. Not sure of a 1054. The dash in NOT original. It's from another model. The trans and color of the frame is correct for a 1053, 1054 and 1254.

My strong guess is a 1254-01. Wisconsin TRA-12D w/Type 1 Solid State Ignition.

The seat spring (Big U) and lowback seat could be from an 850, 1050, etc.


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Posted December 02, 2014 - 11:13 PM

Dash is surely from something like a 1453 (G-14), 1456 (H-14), 1556, 1656 (H-16) or 2086 - 2087 (HT-20).


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Posted December 03, 2014 - 07:40 AM

Thanks a bunch guys for ALL your input.  There is so much I need to learn about these machines I don't think I will live long enough to grasp half of it.  One thing is sure, it will need a good power washing and probably some sand blasting before a paint job is even thought about.  Looks like I have at least 3 different machines threw onto one at this point and if/when I get that yellow Chinese motor in it will make 4.  Definitely a Frankenstein machine from the word go.  But if it runs and does what it is supposed to do, Ol Frank just might hang around for a while.

 

Thanks again for all you help.  Been a very interesting and learning experience.



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Posted December 03, 2014 - 09:11 AM

All of the Pics that I find of a 1972 1054-04 had that Metal dash with the leaver controls and white paint.Found that the 1972 1254-05 also had the leaver type controls but the newer push-pull PTO.

 

That tractor most definitely did not originally have a Briggs engine in it.All the 6 speed dual drive belt and dual PTO belt machines either had 10,12,14 or 16hp Tecumseh or 10,12hp Wisconsin engines in them.

 

I'm betting on it being a 1054-04

 

 

parade1054-2.jpg


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Posted December 03, 2014 - 09:18 AM

Those old Zenith carbs do look similar to the old Briggs carbs to the untrained eye.


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Posted December 04, 2014 - 09:19 AM

All of the Pics that I find of a 1972 1054-04 had that Metal dash with the leaver controls and white paint.Found that the 1972 1254-05 also had the leaver type controls but the newer push-pull PTO.

 

That tractor most definitely did not originally have a Briggs engine in it.All the 6 speed dual drive belt and dual PTO belt machines either had 10,12,14 or 16hp Tecumseh or 10,12hp Wisconsin engines in them.

 

I'm betting on it being a 1054-04

 

 

attachicon.gifparade1054-2.jpg

EricFromPA - That white paint is a mop job over the original gray paint. All of the tractor parts have been sprayed with that white paint and now it is falling off big time.  So - originally the tractor was gray and not white.  1054  ? ?  with a GT14 dash panel ? ?  and older rear cover and seat ??



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Posted December 04, 2014 - 05:17 PM

The paint where it's fallen off inside the battery box Looks lighter than the greenish grey on my 1254. I don't know I give up :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

 

 

I'de toss a 10-16hp harbor freight engine or a used Wisconsin TRA-10D or TRA-12D in it and hunt up an engine pulley and use it.It still looks like a pretty solid tractor.


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Posted December 04, 2014 - 08:06 PM

There was no grey Bolens!

 

The color used during this timer period was an off white sort of dull color.

The seat Pan, dash are not original to that chassis


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Posted December 04, 2014 - 09:31 PM

The paint where it's fallen off inside the battery box Looks lighter than the greenish grey on my 1254. I don't know I give up :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

 

 

I'de toss a 10-16hp harbor freight engine or a used Wisconsin TRA-10D or TRA-12D in it and hunt up an engine pulley and use it.It still looks like a pretty solid tractor.

Exactly what I had in mind.  I have the 10hp Chinese motor that runs good to go in.  Picking up the drive pulley tomorrow.  The steering that was seized is coming loose, thanks to PB Blaster.  Now to get the steering wheel off to start the clean up and repair on it. 

 

It is a good solid old tractor.  Hood hinges are bent up a little but usable.  Still has the free wheel pin casting intact.  I have another set of tires so that is covered.  I bought it for parts, but now I am looking for parts for it !!  :watch_over_fence: 






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