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Posted March 02, 2011 - 05:24 PM

The MID is definitely for Midland. Don't know what the B is for. Have seen others with A so it stands for something.

The Midland tractors are easy to identify because they are the only ones to use a single oval tube for the handle bars as far as I know. If you could find the serial number on the engine you can date it here
Wisconsin Motors | Engine Repair Support & FAQ
They also have the parts lists.

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Garry, I don't have a I.D. tag on the engine, I hope that maybe the info from the mag and carb. will help us id the engine..I do believe that it's a Wisconsin. Thanks for all the help.

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Posted March 02, 2011 - 07:45 PM

Many folks don't know, but most general aviation aircraft use many of these same accessories. Lots of Cessnas, Pipers, Aeroncas, Taylorcraft etc currently flying with Case and Eisemann mags and Marvel Schebler carbs! They're all aircooled, but all use dual magnetos and two spark plugs per cylinder!
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Posted March 02, 2011 - 07:55 PM

That is a Wisconsin engine for sure. The shroud gives it away. The FM mag # FMXD1B7S was used on 3 models, the ABN ACN[D] and BKN. I don't have specific carb use by model info to nail it down further, but the Marvel Schebler carbs were used on the earlier engines. Pulling the head and determining the bore would tell you which for sure. ABN has a bore of 2.5" and is rated at 4.6 hp. mfgd from 1949-1955. The ACN has a bore of 2 5/8" rated at 6hp and mfgd from 1955-83, the [D] indicated stellite valve and seat. The last one, BKN[D] has a bore of 2 7/8" rated at 7hp and was mfgd from 1955-96. Hope this helps. It was good to look back into my old Wisc. info, hadn't been into it in quite a while.
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Posted March 02, 2011 - 07:59 PM

Thanks Guys, I will pull the head tomorrow evening and check the bore. I want to see how everything looks inside the engine anyway.

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Posted March 24, 2011 - 11:58 AM

Well, I got dad tearing into the Wards last night. The final drive box is now apart and other then a lot of rust and dirt, I think it will clean up ok. Here a couple pictures of the box.

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Hopefully we will get a little more time on it today...

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Posted March 24, 2011 - 05:44 PM

That gearbox looks really good considering the age. Yes, should clean up great.
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Posted March 24, 2011 - 06:47 PM

That gearbox looks really good considering the age. Yes, should clean up great.


Sure looks better than George's parts tranny! That should come around for you nicely.
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Posted April 08, 2011 - 02:19 PM

Found a new used engine on our trip this week. This is a good find for the 2 wheel wards tractor. It even says Montgomery Wards on the bottom of the Wisconsin tag.

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This engine has a complete mag. and the right gas tank, the only thing it's missing is the carb., but the other engine has a good carb on it.:dancingbanana:

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Posted April 08, 2011 - 02:27 PM

great find brian.

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Posted April 08, 2011 - 05:28 PM

Glad you found a replacement engine, would love to see the rest of the Wisconsin tag and a shot of the output shaft side of the engine when you have the camera out again.
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Posted April 08, 2011 - 09:33 PM

Some guys have all the luck! Congrats on the replacement engine Brian!

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Posted April 09, 2011 - 07:12 PM

Wisconsin engine. The wheel weights are great! Also has the front counter balance weight. It also works great as a bumper.

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Posted April 11, 2011 - 02:51 AM

Great luck , Brian. You're getting way ahead of me on your restoration! I was able to pick up a manual on the late model PowerTracs, which I will post in the Manuals Forum. Congrats! Dale

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Posted April 11, 2011 - 09:56 AM

Dale, Did you win the manuals on e-bay? I had a bid on them, but didn't follow up nd lost them.

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Posted April 11, 2011 - 01:25 PM

Brian, I did get a Midland manual on e-bay. Don't have it scanned yet, but I will, and will post it to the Manuals section soon. This is for the M30A ( same thing as the PowerTrac with reverse) and M50A Rider with the 5hp Briggs. (The 30 apparently was also available with a 3.5 Clinton) The MontyWard manual I posted this morning came from a friend here in NC. I'd still love to find a MW manual for the earlier non-reversing MID ChorTrac with the WICO ABN engine-




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