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Posted November 27, 2014 - 09:32 AM

This is close to a 800 hr tractor , which I consider a lower hour unit based on its age. It had a 2stage blower on it every winter in its lifetime. This is fourth HT that I have worked on or parted out that has had either the front bolster broken, frame cracked, or axle broken ( two of are sitting my bone yard for parts) curiously they are all HT20's. My thoughts are I wanted a 2stage bad , came up with three , got rid of two, keeping one ( not sure why). And have gone back to a single stage. ( I bought the tractor knowing the bolster was broken)

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Posted November 27, 2014 - 09:48 AM

These have always been know to be over kill on the tractors thats why I will never use one. 


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Posted November 27, 2014 - 09:48 AM

Repair work :

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Posted November 27, 2014 - 09:56 AM

Nice Work.

I have seen a few of these blowers up close and I agree with Wilberj that they are a bit much for a tractor this size.

 

Hope you didnt pay too much for those bearings and seals, I have all those instock if I knew you were looking for them.


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Posted November 27, 2014 - 10:01 AM

More work: new wheel bearings , races and seals, new PTO bearings, new PTO idler bearing, new PTO belts, new axle pivot shaft & bushings, new axle spindle bushing, bearings, races & o-rings. New seal & o-rings , back up ring in rebuilding power steering , new tie rod end ball joints as well as ball joint on PS unit

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Posted November 27, 2014 - 10:04 AM

Wow, that's really ripped up. On my Bolens G152, (Iseki) the frame for front attachments is 3/8" steel that goes back along the frame for over a foot, and so is the drop plate that has the pin hole. The front axle tube is 2&1/2". Are the HT 20's lighter?

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Posted November 27, 2014 - 10:06 AM

Thanks ! Back together

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Posted November 27, 2014 - 10:09 AM

Ready to roll!

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Posted November 27, 2014 - 10:47 AM

Wow, that's really ripped up. On my Bolens G152, (Iseki) the frame for front attachments is 3/8" steel that goes back along the frame for over a foot, and so is the drop plate that has the pin hole. The front axle tube is 2&1/2". Are the HT 20's lighter?
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My thought are: The bolster is cast , the 2stage spring assist ( or keep from smashing things if dropped into float position rapidly) brackets bolt thru the frame into the bolster , my guess is they got loose over time and this was the end result.
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Posted November 27, 2014 - 12:08 PM

I wanted to comment on your repair. Very well done. Also the fact how I am being attracted to the Bolens brand, yet dont know a darn thing about them Sorry to be a bit off topic but where can I research Bolens?
Anyway, great job.

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Posted November 27, 2014 - 12:40 PM

I wanted to comment on your repair. Very well done. Also the fact how I am being attracted to the Bolens brand, yet dont know a darn thing about them Sorry to be a bit off topic but where can I research Bolens?
Anyway, great job.
Glenn

Thank you, well this forum is a great start, their are others, the manuals sections give some background & history, Internet searches, knowlagible members on this forum , some of the site sponsors deal in parts , pieces, whole tractors, parts tractors, etc, ebay, craiglist, Auctionzip. Rick Show ( Ricks Bolens parts aka BlackJackJake) is a great friend who has helped me locate many a piece, part, tractor.
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Posted November 30, 2014 - 08:35 PM

The bolster are a real PITA. I bought my HT23 with a broken bolster. The previous owner did not use the assist springs and this tractor only had 410 hours on it. I replaced the bolster and it broke again after I ran into a hole with the bucket loaded with a tiller in it. So, now on the 3rd bolster and very careful.


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Posted November 30, 2014 - 09:13 PM

This is close to a 800 hr tractor , which I consider a lower hour unit based on its age. It had a 2stage blower on it every winter in its lifetime. This is fourth HT that I have worked on or parted out that has had either the front bolster broken, frame cracked, or axle broken ( two of are sitting my bone yard for parts) curiously they are all HT20's. My thoughts are I wanted a 2stage bad , came up with three , got rid of two, keeping one ( not sure why). And have gone back to a single stage. ( I bought the tractor knowing the bolster was broken)

  

The bolster are a real PITA. I bought my HT23 with a broken bolster. The previous owner did not use the assist springs and this tractor only had 410 hours on it. I replaced the bolster and it broke again after I ran into a hole with the bucket loaded with a tiller in it. So, now on the 3rd bolster and very careful.


What I forgot to say was all those 20's were 2stage tractors, one of the 23's was as well and it has no ill effects, still the 2 stage will sit in the shed for the forseeable future.
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Posted November 30, 2014 - 09:24 PM

I was thinking about a two stage at one time, and then I picked up one for Rick.

 

I took one look at the size or that rascal and my thoughts about getting one vanished.

 

Those are just WAY too big even for a Large Frame.


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Posted November 30, 2014 - 09:28 PM

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