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Posted November 18, 2014 - 11:18 AM

Running.

 

 

You all know the Hemorrhoid. 07 Poulan EX700 26 HP vtwin briggs. Well it has a new trick. You turn off the key and it keeps running. I have to choke it to kill it. Now to be honest I haven't tried to figure it out yet, but I want to hear your ideas. What do you think is wrong? Winner gets an attaboy.



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Posted November 18, 2014 - 11:24 AM

Not sure, this is to new for me, but sounds like the grounding wire is disconnected from the switch. 


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Posted November 18, 2014 - 11:30 AM

Either the switch is bad or your grounding wire has come loose from the coils.  Does it die if you come off the seat?


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Posted November 18, 2014 - 11:35 AM

Fuel shut off solonoid not working.


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Posted November 18, 2014 - 11:54 AM

Either the switch is bad or your grounding wire has come loose from the coils.  Does it die if you come off the seat?

That switch has been bypassed for years. When Steph and I first got together she only weighed 87 pounds. Not enough to trip the switch.



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Posted November 18, 2014 - 12:28 PM

That switch has been bypassed for years. When Steph and I first got together she only weighed 87 pounds. Not enough to trip the switch.

 

You have one of them too!  When my wife and I were married she weighed about the same.  Age has crept up on her so she is now a little over 100. 

 

Then I would say the problem is either the switch or a loose/disconnected grounding wire.  A while back I got one of my tractors out, started it up and had all this crap in the cooling fins.  Took the tins off and found a mouse nest with one southern fried critter still in there.  They had been chewing on one of my grounding wires. 


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Posted November 18, 2014 - 01:29 PM

You have one of them too!  When my wife and I were married she weighed about the same.  Age has crept up on her so she is now a little over 100. 


Someone may want to check on Bill later. If his wife was looking over his shoulder when he posted that, he might be in a pile on the floor right now.


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Posted November 18, 2014 - 02:51 PM

Medic to Bills house STAT!


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Posted November 18, 2014 - 04:37 PM

These new engines have many gadgets and controls.  I was thinking fuel shut-off relay also. My PK has an ignition module even to control whether you get spark and conditions are right to start.  Also has a battery tender circuit that tells if battery is charging and operates lights when starting. AND, a safety switch puter box that makes sure all those are open/closed right and can operate. Mine does have the seat switch crossed over too. Should be a ground on switch marked Mag that needs to ground as you turn it off to kill. Lots of things can go wrong on modern stuff and can really make you ANGRY working on finding problems. My .02!


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Posted November 18, 2014 - 05:21 PM

After alot of carefull thinking, I will not discuss what my wife weighed when we got married.

 

There should be a single wire coming out of the flywheel area. unplug that and ground the wire to the engine. that should kill it. that will tell you which end to look at next. Ditto on all of the bad ground, key switch, unplugged/ chewed up wire stuff. It should be an easy fix, but time consuming to know where to start

 

edit:    well Im not 100% sure on the single wire thing now, it could be a black wire in a 4 pin connector ?

 

Any way this is a rando polan wiring diagram that should be close to that model

 

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Edited by tater195, November 18, 2014 - 05:30 PM.

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Posted November 18, 2014 - 05:24 PM

After alot of carefull thinking, I will not discuss what my wife weighed when we got married.

 

Or now for that matter!


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Posted November 18, 2014 - 06:37 PM

After alot of carefull thinking, I will not discuss what my wife weighed when we got married.

 

There should be a single wire coming out of the flywheel area. unplug that and ground the wire to the engine. that should kill it. that will tell you which end to look at next. Ditto on all of the bad ground, key switch, unplugged/ chewed up wire stuff. It should be an easy fix, but time consuming to know where to start

 

edit:    well Im not 100% sure on the single wire thing now, it could be a black wire in a 4 pin connector ?

 

Any way this is a rando polan wiring diagram that should be close to that model

 

6c85ac30-b458-49c3-b6a5-0d46b9afd1a2-bg1

Same diagram I have. I have a good idea what is wrong I just wanted to see if anyone had an oddball diagnosis that might be right. I will get out there one day soon and work on it.



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Posted November 18, 2014 - 06:45 PM

I was thinking the fuel shut-off solenoid too!



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Posted November 18, 2014 - 07:06 PM

It is not the fuel shutoff solenoid, unless it is dieseling, since turning the key off "SHOULD" ground the ignition.

 

There is a wire running out from under the blower shroud.  Possibly four wires.  Two run to the charging voltage regulator, one should run to the shutoff solenoid, and the other is the kill wire.

 

That kill wire is either unconnected (they do uncouple at the engine) or it has come loose at the switch.  Or been cut.

 

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Posted November 20, 2014 - 09:49 AM

Superben, I once had a late model Speedex with a Vanguard with that shut-off and when you turned key off, it continued to run a few seconds longer. Was weird to get used to. Zat mean something was wrong with it, or is that norm for those? Always did shut down OK.






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