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#1 New.Canadian.DB.Owner OFFLINE  

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Posted November 07, 2014 - 09:51 PM

The Waterloo 15 that I restored last winter needs a new axle: it is seriously grooved (and leaking) at the oil seal.  I had one made for the Supremacy 45, but that cost $240.  Thought I might take a whack at making one.  The biggest question is: cold rolled round rod or hardened steel?  The tractor is less than 250 lbs.  The axle is 26.5" long & 1" diameter.  It rides in bronze bushings.  What say yea all?

 

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Posted November 07, 2014 - 11:59 PM

Is it possible to weld up the worn and turn it back down?
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Posted November 08, 2014 - 12:04 AM

I'd go with cold rolled or annealed cold rolled should last for the price.Hardened steel lacks machine ability for average guys shop.unless the axle extends way past the bushings shouldn't need extremely hard bar stock.  


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Posted November 08, 2014 - 08:34 AM

It would be nice to keep it original and it is likely cheaper like MH81 said to weld or even use JB Weld in the grooves and machine it. Sometimes you can find Speedi sleeves to repair worn shafts or John Deers Corn Head grease. Cheers Mike


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Posted November 08, 2014 - 08:42 AM

If it's just the seal leaking where the grooves are I would look for a little wider seal so it rid es on a good section of the axle . Say the original seal is .250 wide maybe one .375 would work,

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Posted November 08, 2014 - 01:08 PM

I know they make "repair"bearings and seals for autos,they ride in a different area than OEM


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Posted November 08, 2014 - 03:54 PM

Thanks for the suggestions.  I think I will go with some 1018 cold rolled.  A Speedi Sleeve won't work: the groove is 1/2" wide and the sleeve is only .313" wide and $60.  Similar problem for a wider seal.  I could weld & turn it, if I had the skill & a lathe, but I have neither.  The best option seems to be a new axle.



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Posted November 08, 2014 - 05:11 PM

1/2" wide! How deep is it ?
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Posted November 09, 2014 - 03:59 PM

1/2" wide! How deep is it ?

The axle measures about 0.998" in the good spots, and 0.975" in the groove.  Guess that makes it about 0.012" deep.

 

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Posted November 09, 2014 - 05:03 PM

Galock carries some oil seals for shafts .969 it might be worth your effort to try polishing the shaft and try one of theses if you can match the OD of the seal. It would mean stretching the seal until it was in the correct section . They also carry .984 too I'm sure other co. Sell ones in those sizes.
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Posted December 07, 2014 - 08:12 PM

I had a similar problem on a harmonic balancer on a crank shaft , Ford 460 engine, where the seal rode on the balancer.

Made a nice groove and no speedi sleeve would work.

I found a place that did hard chroming. What they did was cylindrically grind the groove out, say .020 thou and then hard chrome that area and regrind back down to oem spec.

Seems the hard chrome wore better and had better oil retention, still working to this day.

Cost me about $ 50.00 CAD back in 1998 in Toronto.


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