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Posted November 07, 2014 - 12:25 PM

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I've owned a Roper 18T for years, the 18hp Onan used one muffler that was over $300.00 in the early 90's now NLA. I cut the ends off and welded male nipples to fit the large round repl. mufflers. The belt cover on the deck is a good idea in theory, but is almost impossible to clean under and it needs cleaned often or will rot the deck. This requires deck and pulley removal to do right. My Roper is used hard and often, so this was removed.  xangussupplyx e-bay has the 5/8x103 6941R belt for $29.99 free ship. Do not get the one that says fits 6941R & 6943R. The 1/2x92 in. 6943R is $25.99 free ship again do not get the one that says fits both. The 6943R is for the 48inch Mower. These belts are both kevlar wrapped, my experience is that non wrapped belts last about one season where the wrapped ones last several. mowerparts4less e-bay has the 6943R for $20.10 free ship. I've used both companies and very pleased, very fast shipping.

 

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Posted November 07, 2014 - 08:42 PM

"I cut the ends off and welded male nipples to fit the large round repl. mufflers." Excellent! that is Just what I'll / can do.


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Posted November 07, 2014 - 10:28 PM

Just caught up with your new find. The manual itself is enough to drool over. I loved the sound when it first woke up & all the years of dust & dirt blowing out of the shroud. Congrats & don't get overwhelmed. Keep us posted.
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Posted November 08, 2014 - 06:33 PM

Spent most of the day removing the clutch pedal assembly. #%&% Roll Pins, after destroying a complete jewelers screwdriver set trying to punch these out I resorted to grinding down one of the air chisel bits to finally hammer this out. Now I finally have the left foot rest off. I will need to move the jack stands back as I just realized the frame is two piece. The Neighbor welded up the broken "Weldment" assembly for me (good Job) should work fine. Still making progress on the teardown.

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Posted November 08, 2014 - 06:58 PM

Roll pins can be a real PITA at times! Weldment looks good!


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Posted November 08, 2014 - 09:46 PM

I'm having an issue removing the Deck Clutch Pedal. Apparently the outside bolt has broke off, but the bolt it's self is froze to the Clutch pedal bushing. I have hit it with PB several times. Tomorrow I'll try the impact on low settings to see if I can remove the bolt without snapping it off.

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Posted November 08, 2014 - 10:13 PM

That's the only thing I hate about older Garden tractors.Some of the stuff is really hard to get apart.And if you break something you either have to Fab it or buy a used part alot of the time.

 

 

All of the newer AYP MTD machines you only need 4 possibly 5 tools - 1 flat tip screwdriver,1 1/2 inch socket,1 9/16  socket and possibly a 7/16 wrench to take it down to the bare frame.That's including taking the wheels off,tranny out and taking the engine completely apart.

 

Oh and a 5/8 socket for the engine pulley and 13/16 for the flywheel nut.

 

AND a Big Friggin Hammer just in case. :rolling:

 

BFH is my favorite " Fixing broken stuff Tool "

 

 

Atleast you can Weld up broken stuff on the older ones.The new ones use 16 and 18 gauge mild steel.Try to weld 18 gauge with a big stick welder once.It will either burn through or the rod will stick.If you DO manage to get it welded it will temper the steel around the weld and Crack when the frame tries to flex.


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Posted November 08, 2014 - 10:16 PM

May need to drill it out and rethread. I hope you can get it out.

That's the only thing I hate about older Garden tractors.Some of the stuff is really hard to get apart.And if you break something you either have to Fab it or buy a used part alot of the time.


All of the newer AYP MTD machines you only need 4 possibly 5 tools - 1 flat tip screwdriver,1 1/2 inch socket,1 9/16 socket and possibly a 7/16 wrench to take it down to the bare frame.That's including taking the wheels off,tranny out and taking the engine completely apart.

Oh and a 5/8 socket for the engine pulley and 13/16 for the flywheel nut.

AND a Big Friggin Hammer just in case. :rolling:

And a quart of gas and a match... :rolling:
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Posted November 08, 2014 - 10:19 PM

So far I have destroyed a complete set of Jewelers screw drivers (already tossed), a set of pliers, and a Chisel. (So Far). Still not finished tearing this down.  

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Posted November 08, 2014 - 10:23 PM

I'm letting the PB work on this and will hit it with the impact in the morning.



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Posted November 08, 2014 - 10:36 PM

LMAO

 

 

Did the breaking of the Pliers make you laugh?I had a cheap set break a couple days ago.All I was doing was trying to do was pull out a stubborn Cotter pin.

 

Snapped off 1 of the heads or tip on my pliers.I looked at it and thought (Holy Cow I'm Bruce Banner) and I walked around all that day laughing about it.Hand hurt for a bit and had a blood blister from the pinch it gave me but it was funny.



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Posted November 09, 2014 - 07:23 AM

Get some acetone and ATF! Works better than PB for loosening things!


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Posted November 09, 2014 - 12:05 PM

This morning carnage.... Enlisted the helper for some of the small bolts, Ended up trashing the impact trying to take the clutch bracket off, it just started spraying oil. I probably caused it as I had the regulator maxed out at 140 psi. Oh well, it lasted quite a while. Had to break out the cheater bar. Helper went at it some also. Yes the bolt snapped off so I will have to carefully drill it out. Calling it quits for the day as I will be BBQing and relaxing this afternoon.

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Posted November 14, 2014 - 11:28 PM

Been out of town at a conference this week, (Needed the break), but as soon as I got home I decided to tackle the froze bolt in the attachment petal, and had my Grandson tackle removing the rear plate.

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Posted November 15, 2014 - 12:01 AM

Cool, you got the bolt out. Did your helper get the plate out? I can't quite tell.
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