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Posted April 09, 2015 - 03:13 PM

Spring has been ordered.

Is it still bouncing off the walls?


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Posted April 09, 2015 - 04:17 PM

Is it still bouncing off the walls?

And Winter has been returned.


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Posted April 09, 2015 - 09:02 PM

Well, after the oil rings have been corrected I moved on to the oil pump and pickup. Those went on without a hitch but then I was looking over the oil pan. The block has two holes that looked to accept dowel pins, but the oil pan had no counterpart...... hummm .... what was the original orientation of the pan as it could be installed 4 different ways. The gasket can only go on one way so that is not an issue. I Printed a picture before disassembly and that solved the orientation issue.

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Posted April 09, 2015 - 09:30 PM

Thank Goodness you chronicled the project well.
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Posted April 10, 2015 - 09:35 PM

More questions....

1. The gasket kit came with two valve stem seals. I can't find where they go, and I don't remember removing any that looked like these. Are they for this engine?

 

2. Not complaining, but the oil pressure spring and copper washer should be included in the complete gasket kit. $8.02 shipping for the $5.50 spring. Been there and done that at searspartsdirect, Briggs, Messicks, and Mcmaster-carr on the other engines. Not complaining just aggravated that I can't seem to order all the things I need on one order. Oh well. 

 

3. Reusing copper washers (incase I can't find them) you say to heat them up cherry red and squelch. Do I squelch in oil or water? 

 

This is where I am at so far. Thanks for all the help and advice!

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Posted April 10, 2015 - 11:17 PM

That first pics (of the rings) is a typical small block Chevy oil ring set. Put in many sets of these.


1964 Impala 283 my first rebuild at the prime age of 18...good ole days.
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Posted April 10, 2015 - 11:26 PM

You might want to check on reusing the copper washers...already been compressed. Your project along with Kenny mentioning the oil rings made me think about my first rebuild. By the time I got done doing everything twice I think I could do one in the dark. Good thing your doing it right & not taking any short cuts.

Edited by Sawdust, April 10, 2015 - 11:27 PM.

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Posted April 11, 2015 - 02:38 AM

More questions....

1. The gasket kit came with two valve stem seals. I can't find where they go, and I don't remember removing any that looked like these. Are they for this engine?

 

2. Not complaining, but the oil pressure spring and copper washer should be included in the complete gasket kit. $8.02 shipping for the $5.50 spring. Been there and done that at searspartsdirect, Briggs, Messicks, and Mcmaster-carr on the other engines. Not complaining just aggravated that I can't seem to order all the things I need on one order. Oh well. 

 

3. Reusing copper washers (incase I can't find them) you say to heat them up cherry red and squelch. Do I squelch in oil or water? 

 

This is where I am at so far. Thanks for all the help and advice!

You have the plain guides. Intake guides that accept seals were optional for a long time before they started putting them in as standard parts. This pic is of the intake guide made for use with the seal.

 

Copper washers if not damaged, distorted or mangled etc. can be reused for "sealing" purposes by the annealing process. Yup! get them cherry red and drop in some water. pffffft....you now have a nice "soft" copper washer again that will "crush" or compress and provide a fresh seal. 

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Posted April 11, 2015 - 08:08 AM

Thanks! Going to town (Napa) to check on copper washers, plug wires, plugs, and some other misc while I have the funds. Not sure how much I'll get done today, plenty of honey-doo items on the list today, and NASCAR tonight. There is always tomorrow.


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Posted April 11, 2015 - 04:07 PM

Trip to town netted nadda. Napa, Ace Hardware, and a local Country store. I plan to hit AutoZone, O Relies, and Tractor Supply next week. In the meantime I checked McMaster-Car and found the washers (98044A228) and possible plug wires at Autoparts Warehouse (64655). But I'll continue to look local before I order on-line.



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Posted April 11, 2015 - 04:29 PM

Larry, go to Tubes N' Hoses at 1501 Franklin for the sealing washers. I used to stock them before I sold out and I am sure Ray still stocks them. Charles


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Posted April 11, 2015 - 04:50 PM

Thanks Charles, I'll add that to my places to stop in Waco next week.


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Posted April 12, 2015 - 02:18 PM

Did a little better today. Got close on the air filter thanks to a knowledgable person at AutoZone, and a few internet searches. Fram CA353, the issue is if I put the cover on the filter, the filter rattles up and down. If I flip the top cover over it fits tight. I may carefully separate the old filter rubber seal and make a gasket for the new filter. As for a pre-filter I picked up a B/S 18hp filter to see if I could use the pre-filter. Nope, but not a loss, Red needed a new filter anyhow. Picked up the Volt meter, I'll check the fit later (I keep all receipts). Universal spark plug set from T/S, main thing was to find the right angled boots. I was able to locate the "Autolight 106" spark plugs at AutoZone. I asked all (Four) places about the Permatex Aviation #3 and got some funny looks. I am still looking for the elusive 7/16 copper washers. I'll probally go ahead and order these from McMaster-Carr.

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Posted April 12, 2015 - 02:49 PM

New Volt meter fits and looks excellent! :dancingbanana:

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Posted April 12, 2015 - 04:25 PM

Gauge is wired in, my power supply is a little high at 16 volts but allows for quick testing. I need to adjust it down some...... Oh remember back on page 31 / post 465 where I looked for my feeler gauge for a couple days and finally ended up buying a new one.... Well I needed a small wrench to tightened the volt meter bolts ..... and.... DOH there it is, out in the open swinging in the breeze. 

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