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#1 aevansgatech OFFLINE  

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Posted October 31, 2014 - 05:27 PM

I'm hoping you guys can help me identify what happened today. It's the first day near 32F here in Michigan, so I figured I'd fire up my '91 Ford YT 16H (16hp B&S) and see how it did in the cold. Well, it started alright and for about 10-15 minutes I was playing with different choke/fuel positions to see what would give me a strong startup and not lose power. 

 

I'm guessing I cycled the ignition 30 times total playing around with it. Then suddenly after one, it completely stopped responding. I get no crank action whatsoever. I know the battery is ok because when I turn the key I can turn the lights on.

 

My question is what could I have possibly done to the starter/ignition/etc to kill it? I'm hoping after it rests awhile I'll be able to start it up.

 

Thoughts!?

 

I'm now very worried about how it will perform in sub-zero temps this winter 



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Posted October 31, 2014 - 05:30 PM

The first think I would check are the fuses. One could have went bad and that would cause the starter not to work.


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Posted October 31, 2014 - 05:36 PM

Probably a fuse like Farmerall said,or you could have over heated the starter...if it has thermal protection it wont work till it cools off.



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Posted October 31, 2014 - 05:51 PM

What they said check for a fuse.Does it have a solnoid in the starting circuit if so try jumping across the starter terminals 



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Posted October 31, 2014 - 06:03 PM

Thanks for the fast replies everyone! I'll give it some time to cool and see if it was overheating.

If it's still not starting I'll start looking into the fuses. Thanks!

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Posted October 31, 2014 - 06:07 PM

Are you sure the battery isn't dead? All that starting in such a short time can kill lots of things!



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Posted October 31, 2014 - 06:07 PM

What they said check for a fuse.Does it have a solnoid in the starting circuit if so try jumping across the starter terminals 

Thats a good suggestion,could be the solenoid for sure.



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Posted October 31, 2014 - 07:01 PM

My vote would be the solenoid got hot and is now stuck in the open position.

Bang it with a screwdriver handle or hammer handle. Not like you are trying to break it. More like a thump.
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Posted October 31, 2014 - 07:19 PM

Its never a good Idea to cycle the ignition 30 times  playing around with it. :(


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Posted November 01, 2014 - 12:58 AM

Yeah I got a little overzealous, but it kept slowly dying on me.

In any case it still won't start after sitting for 1hr, so looks like I'll be trying the gentle starter banging and checking the fuses/solenoid this weekend.

That's alright, this project just got more interesting!
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Posted November 01, 2014 - 01:30 PM

Its never a good Idea to cycle the ignition 30 times  playing around with it. :(

Hey hold on there, you are taking money out of some technician's pocket.


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Posted November 01, 2014 - 01:35 PM

Hey hold on there, you are taking money out of some technician's pocket.

Your right!!!my bad...crank away!!! :rocker2:


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Posted November 01, 2014 - 04:26 PM

Hey hold on there, you are taking money out of some technician's pocket.

 

Alright guys.. let's not get carried away. I purchased the GT to do everything myself and learn!  :smilewink:

 

So I first pulled out the 25-amp main fuse and it was fine. From there I found something quite obvious. My parking brake had come unlatched, so the system interlocks wouldn't allow the engine to start. I noticed it today, but I'm still quite certain that wasn't the issue yesterday.

 

In any case, I did bang on the starter with a wrench a couple times, and now it's firing up!

 

Thanks for the responses. I may be catching up on some of this basic engine stuff, but it sure is enjoyable to work on it.  :thumbs:


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Posted November 01, 2014 - 08:48 PM

Alright guys.. let's not get carried away. I purchased the GT to do everything myself and learn!  :smilewink:

 

Thanks for the responses. I may be catching up on some of this basic engine stuff, but it sure is enjoyable to work on it.  :thumbs:

Just jerking your chain a bit. 

 

As far as the enjoyable part after 51+ years of "turning wrenches" the enjoyable part has pretty much petered out.


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Posted November 01, 2014 - 08:54 PM

If it does this again and whacking the starter gets it turning over, then likely the starter brushes are burned down too far and you'll either need a brush kit for it, or simply replace the whole starter.







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