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#1 TAHOE OFFLINE  

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Posted October 04, 2014 - 10:55 AM

I stumbled across this, I guess that big ole thing start life as a tractor or maybe it's always been a half track, super cool. 

And how they start it, open flame burner and then spin motor using steering column.  :D

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=lH2BPD2TeEI


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 11:14 AM

It's a LANZ Bulldog with Ritscher half tracks, original manufactured in Mannheim. It has a 1 cyl glow head (? doesn't know how you call it) engine that will be preheated w/ a torch.

 

After preheating the engine will be oscillated to start. Until the beginnig 1950's you had to use the steer wheel, later this was forbidden and the engine was started w/ a mounted disc. To start the engine, every LANZ track had a steer wheel, too.

The engine can't get started when turning around, it must be oscillated - so LANZ, or better BOSCH, build special electric starter for the Bulldog (Pendelanlasser).

 

Aber wir LANZer pendeln den Bulldog an!

 

edit: the treshing machine is a Stahl LANZ


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 12:55 PM

   That is cool!!!  but it looks like it could hurt you very quickly.


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 12:57 PM

I Will Always like the sound of a Big single cylinder engine.Those things have 1 heck of a fast Road gear in them.I'm gona guess 40-45mph.

 

 

This little one is really really neat.Love the hand clutch and the really fine details.


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 01:18 PM

In the States its called a Hot Bulb engine. Sometimes called a heavy oil engine. The heavy oil (whatever you have) is heated and vaporized in the hot bulb (glow head) then pulled into the combustion chamber. Some of the heat from the combustion iis allowed around the bulb to keep it hot. Once running it will be self sustained and the torch can be taken away.


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 01:35 PM

It's a LANZ Bulldog with Ritscher half tracks, original manufactured in Mannheim. It has a 1 cyl glow head (? doesn't know how you call it) engine that will be preheated w/ a torch.

 

After preheating the engine will be oscillated to start. Until the beginnig 1950's you had to use the steer wheel, later this was forbidden and the engine was started w/ a mounted disc. To start the engine, every LANZ track had a steer wheel, too.

The engine can't get started when turning around, it must be oscillated - so LANZ, or better BOSCH, build special electric starter for the Bulldog (Pendelanlasser).

 

Aber wir LANZer pendeln den Bulldog an!

 

edit: the treshing machine is a Stahl LANZ

 

I was hoping you would chime in, figured you might know. I have never seen one like that and it's uber cool in my book. 


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 03:11 PM

I Will Always like the sound of a Big single cylinder engine.Those things have 1 heck of a fast Road gear in them.I'm gona guess 40-45mph.

 

 

This little one is really really neat.Love the hand clutch and the really fine details.

 

the engine is really big 10.1 Liters or 621 cui. Here I'm driving the last LANZ Bulldog, a D4016 w/ 4.2 Liters or 260 cui

 

http://youtu.be/nZBp...4ofnzITHvMLUzZg


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 05:37 PM

Someone asked that here one time as a trivia question. What tractor uses a steering wheel as a starting device.

Really neat video. Thanks for posting that
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Posted October 04, 2014 - 06:39 PM

These tractors are pretty neat. Not sure what country it's from, but the Ursus tractor starts with a steering wheel too.
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Posted October 04, 2014 - 06:53 PM

Someone asked that here one time as a trivia question. What tractor uses a steering wheel as a starting device.

Really neat video. Thanks for posting that

Some of the older John Deere's could use the steering wheel to start them, with an adapter!  

 

Really like the model video!   :thumbs:   :thumbs:   :thumbs:   ~~  Lowell


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 08:25 PM

Those hot bulb Lanz's are cool.  I have always liked the Field Marshall's that start with a shotgun shell like these.

 

 

 

Always thought it would be cool to own one of either type.  Not really to common around these parts.


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Posted October 04, 2014 - 10:16 PM

I knew about the shotgun start, but forgot which tractor it was. Thanks for sharing the video!
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Posted October 05, 2014 - 01:22 AM

These tractors are pretty neat. Not sure what country it's from, but the Ursus tractor starts with a steering wheel too.

 

LANZ was the biggest factory manufacturing agriculture equipment in europe, producing in Mannheim, Germany. Russia (and until ww2 the USSR) was the main customer.

In ww2 90 percent of the factory in Mannheim was destroyed - and the trouble began. The russian and eastern europe market didn't exist any longer and the 1 cyl hot bulb engine, build until 1953, was antiquated.

In 1956 John Deere & Co became the majority shareholder of LANZ and the new german brand name was John Deere LANZ.

 

LANZ hot bulb engines were licensed and build in Poland, named USUS, in South America, named PAMPA, in France, name Le Percheron and in a LANZ factory in Spain.

 

Btw: from 1907 up to now we had more then 350 tractor factories here in germany.


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Posted October 05, 2014 - 08:08 AM

My Uncle Bill farmed about 4000 acres in what is now Chesapeake, VA, on the edge of the Dismal Swamp. He had a tractor that worked that way, it was very old even in the 60's, they would start it using a propane torch, it had a wheel on the side that stayed there and a guard folded down over it after the engine started. All they did with it was pull a utility wagon, in first gear it would move about 1-2 mph and would follow the rows, so they didn't even drive it in the fields, just when they were using it other places. No idea what brand it was.


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Posted October 05, 2014 - 01:02 PM

My Uncle Bill farmed about 4000 acres in what is now Chesapeake, VA, on the edge of the Dismal Swamp. He had a tractor that worked that way, it was very old even in the 60's, they would start it using a propane torch, it had a wheel on the side that stayed there and a guard folded down over it after the engine started. All they did with it was pull a utility wagon, in first gear it would move about 1-2 mph and would follow the rows, so they didn't even drive it in the fields, just when they were using it other places. No idea what brand it was.

Sounds interesting - do you know the colour of the tractor? Maybe blue or like red lead? And can you tell something about the form of the exhaust? LANZ tractors are are in the USA - if you want to see one, you have to drive to Canada :D


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