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#1 thirdjoker OFFLINE  

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Posted September 21, 2014 - 07:47 PM

1960 wheel horse.jpg continental.jpg Hello-  I'm new poster here and I recently purchased a 707 in really good shape. BUT- the tractor does not swivel in the middle. I've been spraying PB blaster everyday for a week now. Does anyone have any ideas or have found a way to fix this? I also have a 1960 Wheelhorse,and  1967 Continental with a cast iron grill. Getting ready to purchase a Allis Chalmers B-10. Thanks guys and Hello to All.my 707.jpeg


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Posted September 21, 2014 - 07:50 PM

Welcome to GTtalk, one of the A/C guys will be along shortly to help you out. I have never messed with one of those, so I can't help you out.


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Posted September 21, 2014 - 09:28 PM

That should swivel. I have a couple of guesses.

1-No one ever greased the swivel shaft and it's now frozen (rusted) solid. You may have to pull the rearend from the frame to free it up.

2-Someone in the past has welded the shaft to the frame so it can't swivel. Sounds strange I know, but I know of people who have done it.

 

Hopefully your problem is #1...


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Posted September 22, 2014 - 03:21 AM

Welcome to GTtalk. Great looking tractors and mowers! Thank you for sharing the photos.

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Posted September 22, 2014 - 07:35 AM

Welcome to GTT. Unfortunately that swivel seizes and becomes a big job to free up when they are bad. Try the PB for a month or more. If it doesn't free up you will probably have to strip the tractor down to the frame. I've been told, because I have one too, that it is easiest to cut out part of the swivel with a torch, free it up and then weld it back. I haven't gotten around to that project so, I haven't done it yet. I do have one of those frames and the swivel mount is cut off of it.

 

The B10 is a much better tractor. Good Luck, Rick



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Posted September 22, 2014 - 08:27 AM

Might try a 50/50 mix of ATF/acetone. I've had it loosen some mighty rusted bolts!


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Posted September 22, 2014 - 09:03 PM

i've been able to get it to move about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch. have the atf/acetone on it now. thanks


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Posted September 22, 2014 - 09:11 PM

That's half the battle to get it to move now rotate the 50/50 and pb blaster daily and move it back and forth till it is free and then grease it to death


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Posted September 23, 2014 - 05:28 AM

i've been able to get it to move about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch. have the atf/acetone on it now. thanks

Glad it is loosening up for you! Good luck!



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Posted September 23, 2014 - 07:07 AM

I've read the early ones like your 707 don't have it but the later versions of this set up like my Homesteader have a grease zerk on the receiver tube.  It would be a good idea to add one.  If you drill the hole for one now, you could use that to get some penetrating oil in there to speed up the process.



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Posted September 23, 2014 - 08:47 AM

I've read the early ones like your 707 don't have it but the later versions of this set up like my Homesteader have a grease zerk on the receiver tube.  It would be a good idea to add one.  If you drill the hole for one now, you could use that to get some penetrating oil in there to speed up the process.

Think I have a newer model with the swivel guy broke the shifter off at the ball going into the

trans. Have just the tractor no key to start it but it ran when it was put in storage deck long gone

zion il. 414-502-0996 would like to see it go to a collector.

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Posted September 23, 2014 - 08:58 AM

Think I have a newer model with the swivel guy broke the shifter off at the ball going into the

trans. Have just the tractor no key to start it but it ran when it was put in storage deck long gone

zion il. 414-502-0996 would like to see it go to a collector.

Posting photo in my gallery in a couple of minutes.

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Posted September 23, 2014 - 09:22 PM

mine does have a grease zerk but unable to get grease into it. will put a new one in and see what happens. Using pb blaster and alternating acetone/atf mixture every morning and afternoon. RRE thats in good shape.



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Posted September 23, 2014 - 09:29 PM

Try some heat on the zerk


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Posted September 23, 2014 - 09:57 PM

good suggestion. tommorrow after work will get some haet on it. i'll keep you posted.







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