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#16 tractormike OFFLINE  

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Posted April 17, 2011 - 06:37 PM

I managed to get a couple of hours in the garage this afternoon and made some more progress on this project. First of all I made the motor mounts to get the 14 horse Kohler engine to line up with the input shaft of the hydro. I had to raise the engine 3 inches so I used some 3 inch angle iron that was 1/4 inch thick. After cutting and drilling the holes to mount the angle iron to the bottom of the oil pan I then sat the engine in place on the frame and made sure my drive shaft would still line up. I then welded the new motor mounts in place.

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This is my driveshaft that I turned down on my little 9x20 lathe. The drive hub on the engine is how IH drives their hydro tranny. This engine came out of a 147 Cub cadet. I turned down one end to fit this hub and then drilled a hole through the driveshaft to insert the drive pin. The other end of the driveshaft I turned down so the spline coupler that is used on the Massey hydro would just slip over the shaft. After making sure that everything still lined up I welded the front of the splined coupler to the driveshaft. By using the turned down part of the driveshaft as a pilot to the inside of the coupler it was a snug fit and by tack welding the coupler in a couple of spots before welding it all up it should still run true.

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The driveshaft is running in pretty tight quarters. The steering shaft is just to the right of the driveshaft and the front and midmount implement linkage is just to the left. I am going to try and add a hydraulic cylinder to the lift linkage and run that off of the Massey hydraulic valves. It will be very close in there but I think I can make it fit.

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The next step is to get all the hydraulics mounted up and see what mods need to be made to fit everything in. After all the lines, valves and cylinders are in place then it will be time to get the engine running.
Too be continued.

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Posted April 17, 2011 - 07:06 PM

Looks like a great project you've got going there Mike. Great job on the frame and everything else! Can't wait to see more.

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Posted April 17, 2011 - 09:18 PM

Looking good mike.

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Posted April 17, 2011 - 09:33 PM

Looking good Mike, keep us posted, Shawn

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Posted April 19, 2011 - 06:43 PM

Hey Mike, See ya got it all welded together, looks like that should hold, nice looking job.
Keep the pic's and updates coming, just love these custom projects. May have to stop down to check out the real thing, (Plus take up a bunch of your valuable time) :beerchug:Glenn

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Posted April 20, 2011 - 07:45 PM

Well here is a short video of my progress so far. I have all the hydraulics hooked up and working. The old Kohler hadn't run in a couple of years but I only had to file the points and it took right off. My home made driveshaft runs true and quite. I only ran it with the rear wheels off of the ground as I don't have any engine or tranny controls made yet. I used the 1450 mid mount lift cylinder to make the mid mount lift work on the Allis lift rockshaft. It was a tight fit but should work out well. Sorry for the video quality but I hope you get the idea.

YouTube - Allis Chalmers B-10/Massey Ferguson 1450 custom garden tractor

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Posted April 20, 2011 - 07:50 PM

Very nice work Mike.

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Posted April 21, 2011 - 07:09 PM

Good charge/lift pump pressure. You can hear the relief valve squeal at the end of the cylinder strokes. Looking good Mike!

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Posted April 21, 2011 - 07:20 PM

Thanks for the video Mike! That thing purrs like a kitten! Great work!

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Posted April 21, 2011 - 11:41 PM

Thanks Mike & looking great.

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Posted April 23, 2011 - 05:44 PM

Here is todays update to this project. I have the engine and tranny controls hooked up enough to take it out for its first test drive. It doesn't look real pretty yet but at least it runs and drives. I have lots to do, charging system, brake pedal and linkage, make the hydro contol self centering to neutral, fix the three point lift cylinder leak, extend the steering wheel a couple of inches maybe and quite a bit of sheet metal work before I can even think of sanding, priming and painting.
It's always fun to take a new creation out for its maiden voyage. I am happy with it so far.

YouTube - Allis Chalmers B-10/ Massey Ferguson 1450 custom garden tractor update

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Posted April 24, 2011 - 08:02 AM

Smooth! Runs great, sounds great, drives great...it even looks pretty comfortable! Awesome job so far!

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Posted April 24, 2011 - 08:24 AM

Great ingenuity. That is quite an accomplishment.

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Posted April 24, 2011 - 08:35 AM

Gotta love pedal hydro huh Mike! She works great as I'd expect from you. Heck man, you almost jumped in that tractor seat! I need to start walking more I guess!

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Posted April 24, 2011 - 09:36 AM

Mike, that's a nice unit. Looks like it handles like a dream!

Great work, really impressive!




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