Jump to content

Nominations for Tractor of the Month
Garden Tractors and Parts on eBay



Photo
- - - - -

Wisconsin Tra-10D Governor Springs And Adjustment?


  • Please log in to reply
13 replies to this topic

#1 IamSherwood OFFLINE  

IamSherwood

    Elf guardian

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 2066
  • 8,379 Thanks
  • 7,696 posts
  • Location: Northern Ontario

Posted September 05, 2014 - 06:53 AM

I'm trying to get the carb and governor set up on the TRA-10D

on my Bush Hog D4-10.

I just received new springs and adjusting screw from Bolens 1000.

 

Being the adjusting screw, and springs are so conveniently located behind

the carb, which makes adjusting a challenge, does anyone have any

pictures or tips or tricks or advice that might make this process a bit

easier?

 

Thanks



#2 sacsr ONLINE  

sacsr

    Bush Hog Addict

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 4776
  • 3,268 Thanks
  • 3,283 posts
  • Location: Eastern NC

Posted September 07, 2014 - 07:18 AM

Will what type of picture do you need? I rarely have to mess with the setup, when I have, The carb was off.
  • IamSherwood said thank you

#3 Bolens 1000 ONLINE  

Bolens 1000

    DR. Bolens

  • Staff Admin
  • Staff
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 7
  • 12,679 Thanks
  • 17,200 posts
  • Location: Western NY

Posted September 07, 2014 - 07:38 AM

Carb will have to be off for installation of the new rod and spring.

Usually its just a set it and forget it, once you install the rod and spring.


  • IamSherwood said thank you

#4 IamSherwood OFFLINE  

IamSherwood

    Elf guardian

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 2066
  • 8,379 Thanks
  • 7,696 posts
  • Location: Northern Ontario

Posted September 07, 2014 - 07:55 AM

What I'm trying to find out, is how much of the adjusting rod, is in service.

In other words, how much tension on the governor spring?



#5 sacsr ONLINE  

sacsr

    Bush Hog Addict

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 4776
  • 3,268 Thanks
  • 3,283 posts
  • Location: Eastern NC

Posted September 07, 2014 - 08:01 AM

I will have to look
  • IamSherwood said thank you

#6 Bolens 1000 ONLINE  

Bolens 1000

    DR. Bolens

  • Staff Admin
  • Staff
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 7
  • 12,679 Thanks
  • 17,200 posts
  • Location: Western NY

Posted September 07, 2014 - 08:13 AM

I usually adjust mine to the "Idle position" (Throttle control pushed all the way in)

I make it so there's just enough tension on the spring to keep it from dropping down on the points cover.


  • Alc, IamSherwood and sacsr have said thanks

#7 Kfs35 ONLINE  

Kfs35
  • Senior Member
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 22474
  • 395 Thanks
  • 411 posts
  • Location: SE Michigan

Posted September 08, 2014 - 10:38 AM

I usually adjust mine to the "Idle position" (Throttle control pushed all the way in)

I make it so there's just enough tension on the spring to keep it from dropping down on the points cover.

 

That's how I set mine, too.


  • Alc and IamSherwood have said thanks

#8 IamSherwood OFFLINE  

IamSherwood

    Elf guardian

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 2066
  • 8,379 Thanks
  • 7,696 posts
  • Location: Northern Ontario

Posted September 10, 2014 - 06:11 AM

It's supposed to rain later today, so maybe I'll get some shop time.

Thanks for the input.



#9 IamSherwood OFFLINE  

IamSherwood

    Elf guardian

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 2066
  • 8,379 Thanks
  • 7,696 posts
  • Location: Northern Ontario

Posted September 12, 2014 - 06:28 AM

I believe I have the Governor and adjustment screw set right, and have the correct springs

installed, but it's still giving me grief. It starts easily, and runs strong at mid throttle, smoothly

increases rpm when throttle is pulled further out. Problem is that when I go to idle, it promptly

dies. It almost seems like it's running away at times. I thought it might be sucking some air, so

I sprayed carb cleaner at the intake manifold gasket. No change. Spraying at the gasket between

the upper and lower halves of the carb, at the front of the carb, caused a cough or 2. I was a bit

suspect about that seal at that point when I had the carb apart and reassembled. There isn't

a bolt there to suck the 2 halves together.

Could one drill and tap there, or should I try to seal it with something? If so, what?

The pic is from before I took the carb apart. Previous owner did have some sort of sealant

smeared on the gasket around the front of the carb.

 

DSCF2367 bolt.jpg



#10 Kfs35 ONLINE  

Kfs35
  • Senior Member
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 22474
  • 395 Thanks
  • 411 posts
  • Location: SE Michigan

Posted September 12, 2014 - 02:19 PM

I used a file to true the two halves to try to get it to seal better. Go slow, the aluminum cuts pretty quickly with a good file.
  • Alc, IamSherwood and sacsr have said thanks

#11 Texas Deere and Horse OFFLINE  

Texas Deere and Horse

    RED Wild Hogs, Horses & Deeres

  • Staff Admin
  • Staff
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 1435
  • 14,464 Thanks
  • 15,392 posts
  • Location: East of San Antonio Texas

Posted September 12, 2014 - 02:26 PM

A good sized piece of glass with a sheet of 400 grit sandpaper works very well for getting the surfaces flat also.


  • IamSherwood said thank you

#12 Bolens 1000 ONLINE  

Bolens 1000

    DR. Bolens

  • Staff Admin
  • Staff
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 7
  • 12,679 Thanks
  • 17,200 posts
  • Location: Western NY

Posted September 12, 2014 - 04:43 PM

I think your springs are backwards, the PM61 goes on the top and mounts to the air cleaner hose coming out the valve cover. The PM200A goes on the bottom and is your gov. spring.

 

 

usually filing them down gets the job done on the warped carbs, that was caused by the previous owner over tightening the screws....


  • Texas Deere and Horse said thank you

#13 IamSherwood OFFLINE  

IamSherwood

    Elf guardian

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 2066
  • 8,379 Thanks
  • 7,696 posts
  • Location: Northern Ontario

Posted September 12, 2014 - 05:27 PM

I think your springs are backwards, the PM61 goes on the top and mounts to the air cleaner hose coming out the valve cover. The PM200A goes on the bottom and is your gov. spring.

 

 

usually filing them down gets the job done on the warped carbs, that was caused by the previous owner over tightening the screws....

 

I have the long spring on top, connected to the tube coming out of the valve cover, and the shorter

one on the bottom. I don't know about the part #s, as they arrived in one bag together.

I'll give a file, and sandpaper on glass a try.

Thanks guys.


  • Bolens 1000, Texas Deere and Horse and sacsr have said thanks

#14 Bolens 1000 ONLINE  

Bolens 1000

    DR. Bolens

  • Staff Admin
  • Staff
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 7
  • 12,679 Thanks
  • 17,200 posts
  • Location: Western NY

Posted September 13, 2014 - 07:56 AM

I have the long spring on top, connected to the tube coming out of the valve cover, and the shorter

one on the bottom. I don't know about the part #s, as they arrived in one bag together.

I'll give a file, and sandpaper on glass a try.

Thanks guys.

 

Short one goes on the bottom, long one goes on the top (Silver colored one)


  • IamSherwood and sacsr have said thanks




Top