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Posted September 04, 2014 - 08:26 PM

Finally got the RED-E to my house and running. My brother had in running for a while when I was a little kid and I always loved it. Eventually the mag died on it and it has been sitting for many years just collecting dust. Finally pulled it out of my parents' barn and brought it up to my house and got it going. Had to rebuild the mag and the original carb was cracked and pretty much made of seal-all and it has no shroud so I found an old similar parts motor with a similar carb and did a carb swap and will get the shroud fitted to it. Test fired it with the new carb and after a little tuning it runs great but had to use a fan to keep it from getting too hot until I get the shroud on. These RED-E tractors seem pretty unique and once I get it all tuned and complete I hope to tear it down for a re-paint and make some new decals. I will post pics as it progresses. If anyone has info about the RED-E tractors I would love to know. With the shroud gone I can't even date the engine but I think its from that late 1940's?

 

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Posted September 04, 2014 - 08:30 PM

Good deal you got it running, some of the guys know about these Red-E tractors and will be able to help you out. Great story on saving this one.



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Posted September 04, 2014 - 09:41 PM

That's a great tractor. Very nice story too! Thank you for sharing the photos.

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Posted September 05, 2014 - 07:35 AM

It still has the mag.  Can you get a build date off of it?



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Posted September 05, 2014 - 08:55 AM

Red-E made a few changes through out the production of these tractors. If I remember correctly these newer models came out in 1946. In 1950 engine mounting was changed.

By the pictures you have a 1946-1949 tractor.

The pulley out front is for a sickle mower.



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Posted September 05, 2014 - 11:07 AM

Thanks. I did write down the model and serial number off the mag and I have been trying to date that but haven't had any luck so far. It is a Wico Model X so if anyone knows how to date a Wico mag or knows where some records are that would be greatly appreciated.



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Posted September 05, 2014 - 07:33 PM

Thanks. I did write down the model and serial number off the mag and I have been trying to date that but haven't had any luck so far. It is a Wico Model X so if anyone knows how to date a Wico mag or knows where some records are that would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe we can bracket it.  I have an ABN made in 1951 with a Wilco FM X 1B7 bearing serial number 327697.  Are you higher or lower?

 

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Posted September 07, 2014 - 06:35 PM

Well, finally got it all together and it runs great. I do keep getting crud coming from the tank and plugging up the sediment bowl but that is a battle with all these old metal tanks. Just have to get some run time on it and keep cleaning it; slowly been getting better with each cleaning. Looks a little mismatched at the moment with all the color parts but some paint will eventually take care of that. Thanks for all the help.

 

Even without the shroud the engine casting shows it is a Wisconsin AA. Does anyone at least know what years the AA was in production?

 

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Posted September 07, 2014 - 09:09 PM

Antique Small engine has a lot of info.

http://asecc.com/dat...sin-models.html

Wisconsin AA is a small 1.8hp engine. If you measure the bore and stroke you might be able to pin it down.

 

I have an ABN on my similar tractor


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Posted September 08, 2014 - 11:05 AM

Thanks, that is a good list. It looks like the AA was built up until 1949 so mine must be one of the 1946 to 1949 models.



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Posted September 08, 2014 - 05:08 PM

If the engine is an AA then it would be incorrect and not original engine. "AA" is an outboard motor.  You are looking at a casting number which probably reads something similar to AA-83-0.
Red-E sold 3 different size walkbehinds at the time.
10b which is small 3hp I believe.
11b 4 1/2hp with Wisconsin ABN
12b 5 1/2hp with Wisconsin AKN

 

Is your Red-E tag still attached to the top of the transmission?

 

I would say you have a Model 10b from 1950 or newer.

I base this on tire and wheel size. It also has wheel weights which would have been standard on this model and the size of the engine. You would have to remove the cylinder head and measure the bore and stroke to determine if is 4hp or 6hp.


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Posted September 09, 2014 - 07:06 AM

The tag is still on the transmission; I will have to get it cleaned up and let you know what I find on it.



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Posted September 09, 2014 - 04:26 PM

Got the plate cleaned up a little. Serial number is 11505831. Didn't see a model number on it.

 

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Posted September 09, 2014 - 06:21 PM

You are correct I do not see a model number either.

Still very certain you have a model 11b.


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Posted September 09, 2014 - 06:43 PM

Ok, thanks for the info. If you are going by tire size they are 6.00x16 if that helps. It is also one speed if that was a difference between models. Just one speed forward in or out; one control (clutch) for each tire.






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