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Posted August 26, 2014 - 05:03 PM

When did the wider tires become availabe? Are the ones with narrow front tires harder to find? Thanks



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Posted August 26, 2014 - 05:11 PM

I was thinking '65 but don't bet on that.  WFM's 110 history did not help me.


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Posted August 26, 2014 - 05:14 PM

I was thinking '65 but don't bet on that.  WFM's 110 history did not help me.

Are the ones with narrow tires harder to find? The tractor is either a 65 or 66. Thanks



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Posted August 26, 2014 - 07:49 PM

The wide front wheels (16 x 6.5 x 8) were actually available for the mid to late 1964 110's. 1963 and early 1964 110's were the only years that the wide wheels weren't available, due to the steering gear ratios. Wide front wheels should not be used on tractors earlier than 4048 serial numbers.

 

As for the narrow wheels, yes they are a little harder to find, but I wouldn't consider them rare. They are out to there to be found, and in most cases, you'll pay a good bit of money for them. Just an example, I have a set of narrow front wheels on everyone of my tractors, which totals to 26 tractors. Like I said, they aren't considered in my book, as to being rare.

 

As far as tractors with narrow front wheels being harder to find, it all depends on the serial number tag. 1963 through 1965 didn't have serial number tags that kept log of how many tractors were provided from the factory with narrow front wheels. So any wheel combination, narrow or wider, could be found on any of these year 110's, as long as the serial number of the tractor isn't before 4048. In 1966, John Deere started identifying the factory wheel release with each model sent out. On a 1966 110, the serial number breakdown, say SNT1032058928/M,  is explained as follows:

 

First three letters: SNT = Serial Number Tractor

Next two numbers: 10 = 110 Series Tractor

Next number: 3 = Tire Designation

Next number: 2 = Hydraulic Lift Option / If this would be a 1, then Manual Lift Option

Next six number: 058928 = Actual serial number of the tractor

Next letter: M = Factory Suffix for Horicon

 

Tire Designation:

1 = GT-1: 4.80/4.00-8 All Purpose Fronts and 6-12 All Purpose Rears

2 = GT-2: 4.80/4.00-8 All Purpose Fronts and 6-12 Traction Rears

3 = GT-3: 16x6.50-8 All Purpose Fronts and 23x8.50-12 High Flotation Rears

4 = GT-4: 4.80/4.00-8 Studded Fronts and 23x8.50-12 Traction Rears

 

John Deere also had designations for the 1967 110's as well. We'll us a serial number of T1313069178M this time, and it's explained as follows:

 

First letter: T = Tractor

Next number: 1 = 110 Tractor / If this would be a 2, then the tractor would be a 112

Next three numbers: 313 = Identification Code (See below for more details)

Next six numbers: 069178 = Actual serial number of the tractor

Next letter: M = Factory Suffix for Horicon

 

1967 Identification Codes:

300/304 = 110 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-1 wheel designation

301/305 = 110 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-2 wheel designation

302/306 = 110 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-3 wheel designation

303 = 110 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-4 wheel designation

307/311 = 110 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-1 wheel designation

308/312 = 110 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-2 wheel designation

309/313 = 110 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-3 wheel designation

310 = 110 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-4 wheel designation

 

314 = 112 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-3 wheel designation

315 = 112 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-4 wheel designation

316 = 112 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-3 wheel designation

317 = 112 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-4 wheel designation

 

Just for the record, I see no proof that 4.80/4.00-8 All Purpose front tires were ever installed on a 112 from the factory. They could have they factory released 4.80/4,00-8 Studded tires, but the All Purpose tread design would not be correct for the factory correct restoration. According to my records, no 112's were ever released from the factory with 6-12 rear wheels either, just the 23x8.50-12 wheels.

 

Hope this helps, and will aid you in determining what you have or what you are looking for.


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Posted August 26, 2014 - 10:03 PM

Holy carp Troy, is all that in your head?
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Posted August 27, 2014 - 06:34 PM

The wide front wheels (16 x 6.5 x 8) were actually available for the 1964 110's. 1963 and early 1964 110's were the only rear that the wide wheels weren't available, due to the steering gear ratios. Wide front wheels should not be used on tractors earlier than 4048 serial numbers.

 

As for the narrow wheels, yes they are a little harder to find, but I wouldn't consider them rare. They are out to there to be found, and in most cases, you'll pay a good bit on money for them. Just an example, I have a set of narrow front wheels on everyone of my tractors, which totals to 26 tractors. Like I said, they aren't considered in my book, as to being rare.

 

As far as tractors with narrow front wheels being harder to find, it all depends on the serial number tag. 1963 through 1965 didn't have serial number tags that kept log of how many tractors were provided from the factory with narrow front wheels. So any wheel combination, narrow or wider, could be found on any of these year 110's. In 1966, John Deere started identifying the factory wheel release with each model sent out. On a 1966 110, the serial number breakdown, say SNT1032058928/M,  is explained as follows:

 

First three letters: SNT = Serial Number Tractor

Next two numbers: 10 = 110 Series Tractor

Next number: 3 = Tire Designation

Next number: 2 = Hydraulic Lift Option / If this would be a 1, then Manual Lift Option

Next six number: 058928 = Actual serial number of the tractor

Next letter: M = Factory Suffix for Horicon

 

Tire Designation:

1 = GT-1: 4.80/4.00-8 Fronts and 6-12 All Purpose Rears

2 = GT-2: 4.80/4.00-8 Fronts and 6-12 Traction Rears

3 = GT-3: 16x6.50-8 Fronts and 23x8.50-12 High Flotation Rears

4 = GT-4: 4.80/4.00-8 Studded Fronts and 23x8.50-12 Traction Rears

 

John Deere also had designations for the 1967 110's as well. We'll us a serial number of T1313069178M this time, and it's explained as follows:

 

First letter: T = Tractor

Next number: 1 = 110 Tractor / If this would be a 2, then the tractor would be a 112

Next three numbers: 313 = Identification Code (See below for more details)

Next six numbers: 069178 = Actual serial number of the tractor

Next letter: M = Factory Suffix for Horicon

 

1967 Identification Codes:

300/304 = 110 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-1 wheel designation

301/305 = 110 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-2 wheel designation

302/306 = 110 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-3 wheel designation

303 = 110 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-4 wheel designation

307/311 = 110 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-1 wheel designation

308/312 = 110 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-2 wheel designation

309/313 = 110 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-3 wheel designation

310 = 110 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-4 wheel designation

 

314 = 112 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-3 wheel designation

315 = 112 Tractor with manual lift and type GT-4 wheel designation

316 = 112 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-3 wheel designation

317 = 112 Tractor with hydraulic lift and type GT-4 wheel designation

 

Just for the record, I see no proof that 4.80/4.00-8 front wheels were ever installed on a 112 from the factory. They can be installed on the 112's, and all of mine have them, but I see no evidence that these were factory issued this way. According to my records, all 112's had the standard 16x6.50-8 front tire designation.

 

Hope this helps, and will aid you in determining what you have or what you are looking for.

The reason I ask is if they're a little more uncommon is I found one that has the narrow ones on and its for sale. Comes with deck too


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Posted August 27, 2014 - 09:10 PM

It all about what you want. If you like the looks of the narrow tires like I do, then I'd say go for it. If you're more into the wider tires, then you have to decide if you want it or not. If I was just starting my collection today, and I found a decent round fender with narrow wheels, with a reasonable price tag, then yes, I would be buying it. But let me say this, I don't just buy tractors for individual parts or attachments. When I buy a tractor, I buy it for the overall appearance, condition, hard to find accessories, and possible wheel package. I won't buy a tractor just for the wheels, or maybe a headlight package. The whole package must be something I can appreciate.

 

Sort of like my wife. I didn't marry her just because she had a nice set of headlights. I married her for her generous heart, her thoughtfulness, her loving ways, her kind spirit, good looks, and others things. If I was the type of collector who only bought tractors because I needed a steering wheel, or a decent set of tires, or maybe a hitch assembly, can you imagine what my yard would look like? I'd have tractors and attachments setting everywhere.

 

Now before anybody starts throwing stones at me, or starts cussing me out, don't take that as I'm downing guys who do buy tractors like that. I'm just pointing out that that isn't how I work. If that's your way of getting things, then by all means, do it.


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