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#1 dropped82 ONLINE  

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Posted August 17, 2014 - 02:18 PM

Well, I managed to come across this Allis. I had a snowblower for this for quite some time. Couldn't seem to sell it so, I just got a tractor for it lol. Got thiz allis 912H yesterday. Its a non runner but looks as if its been short blocked. The engine is gray with what seems to be a newer style tag on it. The limited slip is off it for whatever reason. I got it to run a short time. Which tells me I should go on with the rearend fixes. Here are some pics of the tractor.

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Also got this pto with it. not real sure how it mounts or what I'm gonna use it for but it looks neat haha. Never had a use for a 540 pto.

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Hope to get her going and start mowing with it. Would like to "stripe" my lawn. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? The bevel gearbox is tight. That was the first thing I checked. Other than that, I know very little about these. Thanks!

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Posted August 17, 2014 - 02:25 PM

Sell the 540 pto and everything else will be paid for. Those are not common.
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Posted August 17, 2014 - 02:44 PM

Portland, IN show is next weekend. I thought about taking it for some bargaining on some things I may need or want. It spins very smooth with little to no play. Also doesn't show any wear on the shaft. I couldn't find any for sale so I'm a little lost on approximate value though. I think I could see myself getting into Allis/simplicity's a little more. Will have to mess with it some more tonight.

Eric

PS: The full set of turf tires could pay for what I have in all of it.

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Posted August 17, 2014 - 09:01 PM

Very nice! You will soon love that machine.

Those 540 PTO's have their days...sometimes a pair of bidders can run them up fairly high. Like you though, noone really uses them. I have only ever met a single collector who mounted one for use. All others...show and tell. They typically fetch $200-250 though. A great find!
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Posted August 17, 2014 - 10:34 PM

I planned on using this as a primary mower and letting my 448 move on to other jobs. I've mowed with kohler before. Its not quite the onan but is no slouch. Plus, I mow 3 sometimes 4 yards a week. That Onan gets a little thirsty.

I've considered a tiller since I've seen a few for sale locally. Is there a separate rear pto? I don't have any way of lifting in the rear. Plus, I understand the snowblower runs off the front pto? I don't have a mounting bracket/mule drive for the blower. I'm also minus the front pto but seems any standard electric will fit ok. I have one on the shelf from a cub 1650 that resembles the pics I saw of one. Just need to hook up a switch. Also noticed a spot labeled for electric lift on the dash with a black plug instead of a switch. This is all new to me. I'm grateful the decals are all readable. Otherwise, I'd be really lost. If anyone has any pics of this stuff, it would be greatly appreciated. Gives me something to hunt for next weekend. Thanks.

Eric

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Posted August 18, 2014 - 04:21 AM

The rear lift was optional on these and is frequently available on ebay. Pretty simple to install.

The tiller runs off the bevel gear box (bgb), beside where your mid pto is belted up, using the cone clutch. There is an idler pulley set that should accompany any tiller, and is often referred to as the 'pto'. If a tiller is without that, figure on adding one and they run around $100.

The blower doesnt need a front clutch/pto. Most run off the mid pto where your deck belt would engage the bgb/cone clutch. Many folks say the use of that looooong belt actually works better and provides longer belt life thatn a true front pro setup. The key becomes finding a blower with the right hitch, which is not difficult. The whole setup runs $100-250, depending on location and demand. I will see them on occasion for under $100. My buddy just bought one saturday, with electric spout rotator, for $75, in great shape.
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Posted August 18, 2014 - 09:33 PM

What do you mean, "the limited slip is off it"?
Someone on one of these forums is using one of those 540 PTO's on a grain auger or feed mixer. Can't remember which.
I would not buy a tiller unless it has the set of pulleys...generally the people selling them without pulleys think they are worth as much as those sold with pulleys... In my opinion they are worth no more than scrap value without all the pulleys.

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Posted August 19, 2014 - 05:20 PM

The differential is off. I checked the axle and it looks good. Once I finish the b48 in my 448 then I will move onto this. I'm not real sure why it was removed. Lets hope for the best.

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Posted August 24, 2014 - 08:34 PM

So...took the hub off and after looking closer, I can see the inner axle was rewelded. A bad job at that. So now that explains why the differential was removed. On the hunt now. Anyone have one? Pic included.

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Oh, and my trip to Portland was good. I managed to get 2 tillers with pulleys, rear lift, and linkage. I was able to trade the 540 pto for them.

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Posted August 26, 2014 - 08:53 PM

Well, got the bad axle cut and removed. Waiting on the new one to show up. Should be thursday or friday. Just disassembled the differential to clean, inspect, and regrease. Do I need to put a gasket or some kind of sealant between the mating surface? There was remnants of something. Also noticed there should be a handful of 1/4-20 bolts on the same mating surface holding it together. Everything looked good. Gonna pick up some new bolts and start greasing and reassembling tomorrow. Also, gonna grab a new battery for her. Here are a couple pics.

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Anyone ever tried to do a Cat 0 3 point on one of these? Or at least a hydro lift model. Doesn't seem like its that far fetched. Just a thought.

Eric

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Posted September 05, 2014 - 07:14 PM

Eric, did you get the new axle in it?



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Posted September 05, 2014 - 08:37 PM

Yes I did. Sorry for not giving an update. I mounted some 10.50 super lugs also. I ended up trading the 540 pto for 2 36" Tillers, rear pulleys, and rear lift setup. I think I did decent. I will post some pics tomorrow of everything. Still have some questions on mounting and routing. I was actually of taking it to Daniels plow day along with my Case' if I get it ready in time. Just haven't had time to tinker with it due to unforseen truck repairs and work.

Eric

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Posted September 07, 2014 - 10:04 PM

A little update.

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As you can see, I got the new rear axle in. Differential dismantled, cleaned, inspected, regreased, and installed. Along with the what seems like 500 keys (actually 4 haha). Got those 10.50's in a deal with this Allis with intentions on using them for it. I'm now working on replacing the fuel hose and will probably pull the carb. The points and condenser are fairly new (still shiny). Needs a plug also. I also need to install a better exhaust. I have a muffler from a Cub 1650 that fits under the hood exiting down to the ground. Should make for a good quiet runtime.

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Here are the pics of the rear lift already installed and the 2 Tillers. One is just for parts and the other is fully functional. Also, have the mule drive in there.

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Only other thing I'm waiting on are deck spindles. I bought a set from a fellow member all rebuilt and painted pretty. My plan is too have this as a mowing/tilling machine. I've heard that's what these do best over other brands. Need to see for myself.

Eric

PS: don't mind the john Deere filter. Its what I had handy and so happens to be the correct one.

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Posted September 13, 2014 - 01:58 PM

Another update.

Runs and drives great! Need to make a lift cable for the rear lift. Rebuilt deck spindles will be here Monday. I also need to hunt down a pto drive and deck belt. Anyone know what sizes? Can I get away with an aftermarket belt? Also, I'm hoping to get acquainted with the tiller. Here are a few pics of the initial test drive by my stunt driver.

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Posted September 13, 2014 - 05:12 PM

Nice work! Tractor looks great. Driver looks to be having a great time too!
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