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#16 jdcrawler OFFLINE  

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Posted July 23, 2014 - 08:04 AM

Does the boom tilt on those?

It tilts forward so the forks touch the ground and then it tilts all the way back to where it almost touches the steering arm.


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Posted July 23, 2014 - 10:13 AM

I always wondered because I have never seen a picture of them with the forks forward other than yours.


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Posted July 23, 2014 - 05:26 PM

Figured out why the forks would go up but not come down.
I took the hydraulic valve apart today and the spool valve shaft was rusted enough that it would not slide in the bushings.
So the spool could be pulled out to raise the forks but it could not be pushed back in to lower the forks.
Both of the hydraulic valves have a new looking rubber boot on them so I'm assuming the old boots were bad and allowed water to get into this valve.

After soaking the whole assembly with Breakaway, I removed both inner and outer bushings and the centering spring.
Then I used emery cloth to clean the rust off the shaft.

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Both bushings and the spring were cleaned also.

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Then the bushings and spring were reassembled.

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The outer flange plate was then bolted on.

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And the rubber boot was put back on.

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Last thing to do was to reattach the operating lever to the shaft.

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So .. the forks go all the way up ( yes, that is all the higher they go ).

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And they go back down to the floor.

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The boom tilts all the way back.

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And tilts all the way forward.

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Posted July 24, 2014 - 08:18 AM

wow great job ray 


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Posted July 24, 2014 - 08:38 AM

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Posted July 24, 2014 - 11:42 AM

Cool. Are you planning a full restoration on it?


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Posted July 24, 2014 - 03:25 PM

Defiantly a refurbish but not a restoration.  

Unlike my Ridemasters and the Shaw tractor, this is going to get a lot of use  so some modifications are going to have to be made to make it fit my needs.

 

 This is going to be used up in the loft of my garage where I will have racks built for storage.
The storage weight limit of the loft itself has to be taken into consideration.
The heaviest items would be no more than about 600 pounds.

Larger and heavier items will be stored down on the main level that has a concrete floor and can be accessed by my big forklift.

The racks will probably be about 4 foot high and 3 foot deep so I need forks that can lift that high and reach that deep.
Besides using this for the racks, it will be used to move non running garden tractors and other things around to store them in the loft.

The 3-point forks that I have are about 5-1/2 foot tall boom and the forks are about 2-1/2 foot long.

The construction of this little forklift is very strong and it will handle more weight than what it is rated for.
If need be I can put solid forklift tires on it and add more counter weight but I don't think that will be necessary.

Right now this is designed to travel at up to 7 MPH.
That is a lot faster than I'll need go up in the loft so I'm also thinking of putting a smaller pulley on the engine and a larger pulley on the transmission.
This should slow it down and give more pulling power ( I think it will work out that way ? )


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Posted July 24, 2014 - 03:33 PM

Actually, with hydrostatic, slowing the input lowers your torque.  Higher rpm is better, then just limit your speed by the hydro control lever.  But in this case, I'd say you can slow the input & still have plenty of torque to the wheels.


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Posted July 24, 2014 - 07:02 PM

Wouldnt this also cut power for lifting?

I know on my tractor mounted forklift and loaders, reducing rpm (input to independent pump) greatly reduces my load lifting ability.

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Posted July 24, 2014 - 07:15 PM

Actually, with hydrostatic, slowing the input lowers your torque.  Higher rpm is better, then just limit your speed by the hydro control lever.  But in this case, I'd say you can slow the input & still have plenty of torque to the wheels.

 

 

Wouldnt this also cut power for lifting?

 

I was going to leave the same size pulleys for the the hydraulic pump and just change the pulley size for the drive.

 

This hydrostatic drive stuff is still new for me.  I'm use to the old standard gear drive systems.

For them, if you want to change the speed or the torque,  you change the gear ratios.  

Looks like that line of thought doesn't work for the hydrostatic system.

 

Just goes to show ya, even an old codger like me can still learn something.


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Posted July 24, 2014 - 07:29 PM

Daniel will steer you right!


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Posted July 24, 2014 - 07:36 PM

I was going to leave the same size pulleys for the the hydraulic pump and just change the pulley size for the drive.
 


Well....you may be onto something. I already cannot recal how the drive is setup. Is the final drive to the axle a pulley driven tranny? I was thinking it was hydraulic motor. Ill have to go back and look at pics.

The benefit of slowing the hydro for a forklift is that things get less herky-jerky. Control becomes more forgiving...Im no hydraulic guru, just drawing from observations operating mine lift and loaders.
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Posted July 24, 2014 - 08:29 PM

The transmission and axle are all one unit, Josh.

Remember we had a hard time getting it to move and we figured the belts were slipping ?

Also we couldn't get the fill plug off to check the transmission fluid ?

 

The belts were slipping because it responded better after I replaced the belts but still not as good as I thought it should.

Turns out it was just about out of transmission fluid also.

 

I finally got the transmission fill plug off and started putting oil in and it started running out from down by the axle on the right side.

There are two threaded holes in the top of the axle housing that I'm assuming were mounting holes for the belt cover.

These holes are open to the axle shaft and the transmission fluid was running out of these holes.

 

I put gasket sealer on two bolts and threaded them into the holes and the leak stopped.

After filling the transmission with trans/hydraulic oil, the drive operates much better and is a lot more responsive to the foot pedal.


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Posted July 25, 2014 - 09:22 AM

Thats excellent!
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Posted July 25, 2014 - 01:26 PM

The muffler that I bought off ebay arrived today and fits perfectly.
It stays inside the width of the forklift and points forward and down away from the operator.

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I made a support strap to go from the muffler down to the engine.

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Instead of a pipe coming out of the end of the muffler, this one has louvers so the exhaust is defused in a wider pattern.

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