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#1 hlone OFFLINE  

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Posted July 20, 2014 - 08:04 PM

Help - Identification of a Walk Behind Tractor!

I picked up this walk behind for $15 this weekend that has been sitting for 40+ years in an old shed. It has a Clinton engine on it that is free / turns over and actually has clean oil in it. The tires junk, but have a Wards name on them.

The few identification tags I have found are as follows:

Clinton Engine Model #: C1101A0C Serial # 2098703 A
On the Transmission there is a tag Serial # SS12580R
On the Axle it has a cast # of SSB19

 

To add weight to the tractor they made a form and put concrete on the back side of each rim!

Any help would be appreciated.

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Edited by hlone, July 20, 2014 - 09:31 PM.

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Posted July 20, 2014 - 08:11 PM

Most likely a Montgumery wards made by Simplicity.
Forties to early fifties.

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Posted July 20, 2014 - 08:22 PM

Welcome to the fourm, that's a cool tractor, the tractor looks like Montgomery Wards, late 40's to early 50's, the Clinton engine will tell us that, regarding that, the model number you gave should start with a letter not a number, clean the tag a bit more and see if it does not read B1101AOC, upload a few more pictures of the engine if you could, i would like to see the throttle arrangment.

 

Ben of Old Path Equipment on this fourm may have the needed parts to make that Clinton run should it need any.

 

I see the second hand lever for powering attachments, that is neat it has that.


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Posted July 20, 2014 - 08:38 PM

That looks like a hefty little tractor. 

 

Those handles say model Simplicity B to me, as well as the wheel pattern, but since Simplicity/Monty Wards painted on the model information its really anyone's guess.

 

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Posted July 20, 2014 - 08:53 PM

Going out on a limb, here it look exactly like the one I just got. Mine  had no engine, but  I think it Wards model of a Model B simplicity. Wards called their Clinton power one a chore trac. Mine has a barely readable tag on the top of the gear box. looks like this one does also. maybe if you carefully clean it off, you can learn a little more about it.


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Posted July 20, 2014 - 09:22 PM

Thanks for the Information.

 

Here are a couple more pictures of the Tractor

 

Engine Serial Starts with letter "C" now looking at the picture again:

 

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Levers:

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Bracket Below Engine:

 

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Posted July 20, 2014 - 09:40 PM

Thanks, you have another double letter Clinton and this is the 4th one i have seen, 3 on tractors, one i own, model C1101AOC, the first letter A is something of a paradox for the walk behinds, i have reasons to assume that it is only for walk behinds seeing as no other Clinton engine that i know of has the double letter.

 

The engine is mid 54 to 56, not as early as i originally thought, C1101 type A,  2 hp, 4 variants of this engine was MFG'ed, you have the variable speed one with the later # 26 Carter N carb, i can see a hint of it in the photo with the special air horn for the throttle cable, only for power equipments and walk behind tractors, it should have the plastic Saf-T-Vue air cleaner atop the air horn.

 

Photos of the throttle arangment and carb would help me further.


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Posted July 20, 2014 - 10:42 PM

im thinking if that engine date is correct, then its newer than the tractor, as tractor model is from the late 40's to early 50's.


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Posted July 21, 2014 - 05:04 AM

Thanks Jeff, the date was bothering me so i double checked this morning before sighing on, the Simplicity B was mfg until late 52 to 53, the B series was already 4 years in productions so it did not feel right to have such a large gap between engines.

I double checked the model # and it came back as coming out 2 years after the B series around late 51early 52 with the round bowl Carter N, his model # is one of the first, C1101 type A so i stand corrected on the date.

 

It would seem it is all original right down to the tires.


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Posted July 21, 2014 - 05:07 AM

Thanks for the Information.

 

Here are a couple more pictures of the Tractor

 

Engine Serial Starts with letter "C" now looking at the picture again:

 

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Levers:

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Bracket Below Engine:

 

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What are your intentions with this tractor, are you going to restore it ?


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Posted July 21, 2014 - 05:54 AM

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 07:18 AM

im thinking if that engine date is correct, then its newer than the tractor, as tractor model is from the late 40's to early 50's.

I agree with the assumption that it is a re-power.  Check out the engine mounting bolt locations.  It looks like someone drilled new holes in the mounting flanges for the smaller bolt pattern.  

 

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 05:19 PM

I agree with the assumption that it is a re-power.  Check out the engine mounting bolt locations.  It looks like someone drilled new holes in the mounting flanges for the smaller bolt pattern.  

 

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I don't think I've seen this shape of base before either, but then again I don't have many Clinton powered unit. I had wondered about the holes being redrilled, but I think I would have had to see the part in person to decide. Looks like this tractor was rode hard a few times.


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Posted July 21, 2014 - 05:58 PM

I agree with the assumption that it is a re-power.  Check out the engine mounting bolt locations.  It looks like someone drilled new holes in the mounting flanges for the smaller bolt pattern.  

 

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Yours has those holes, two are open like you see in the picture, the other two are drilled and tapped into the sump so this base can fit either sizes.


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Posted July 21, 2014 - 06:02 PM

I don't think I've seen this shape of base before either, but then again I don't have many Clinton powered unit. I had wondered about the holes being redrilled, but I think I would have had to see the part in person to decide. Looks like this tractor was rode hard a few times.

One of the most commonly used base was that one, universal, i see on a lot of Clintons throughout the series.

 

Yeah, she was used hard and put up wet.


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