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#1 classic ONLINE  

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Posted July 13, 2014 - 02:02 PM

In my quest for bits, pieces, and parts, complete tractors seem to be the only way to find what I need. The problem is that I'd rather restore these "parts tractors" than part them out. And yet again, this Big Ten is worthy of a restoration, so that's that...and I need more parts now.

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Posted July 13, 2014 - 02:54 PM

Nice going. How many of the B series do you have? I have 3 and think they are great. Parts tractors will come along. Keep Looking. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted July 13, 2014 - 03:23 PM

Well, I have three Big Tens, a B1, and a 64' Simplicity Landlord. I'm pulling the engine on this Big Ten to clean the flywheel and possibly replace the coil if needed. It's a bit ugly right now, but I'm going to just clean it up, replace a few things, and use it. Some of the paint is still in good shape under the grunge. If it smokes I'll freshen up the engine.

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Posted July 13, 2014 - 04:13 PM

holy smokes your cornering the Allis market over there, looks great, does the deck turn freely ? looks like you got the 42 '' cut and the harder to find 36 '' cut deck.


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Posted July 13, 2014 - 04:38 PM

It's getting harder to find these tractors, Trowel. One of the decks was butchered to be used on something else. If you take another look, you will see almost half of the housing has been cut away. It's raining like mad now, but I'll get the deck measurements. The good deck could be used right now since the spindles seem to be in great shape. I just spent some time doing a little cleaning on this Big Ten and it's looking better.

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Posted July 13, 2014 - 04:41 PM

Ah, then it must be a butchered 42 '' cut then, the tractor looks great, paint is still shiny.

 

Yeah, the early ones are becoming scare.


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Posted July 13, 2014 - 05:01 PM

This one set me back 300.00, but 300.00 doesn't get you much these days, so I think it's a pretty good price. I've been looking for a spring loaded plow and that turned out to be a bonus when I saw it on the back of his truck when he pulled up. The hood is a bit rough, but repairable. One thing I'm amazed at is the condition of the grill. The BGB is tight and it shifts fine, but it will need axle tube seals. I'm also surprised at how tight the steering is. There is not as much paint wear on the steering wheel as with my other Big Tens, so there's probably fewer hours on this one.

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Posted July 13, 2014 - 05:14 PM

That is great, it seems the axle seals leak is a common fault, both mines are weeping gear oil.

Yeah i can see the grill, that is tight ! and you got the AC decal also which is neat ! the add on handles for the hood makes me laugh, reminds me of the catches my Squire 9 had, also see the original T-handle hood bolt do you have all four ?

 

you also have what is left of the pto shaft cover, in case you are wondering it is the same as the lifting handle grip.

 

You going to chuck the bun muffler for the Nelson repo can muffler ?


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Posted July 13, 2014 - 05:52 PM

Yup, the seals and sometimes the bushings for the axle tube need replacement. My B1 was used heavily with the bottom plow and I'm replacing the axle tube, tube bushings, and all of the seals in the trans and BGB. I'm leaving the handle on the hood since it's convenient, just kidding, HA! It's got to go along with the muffler. I'll get a repro Nelson and a new front PTO cover. I was surprised to see remnants of that cover on there.
Here's a pic of the worn axle tube bushing on my B1. Both bushings were worn like this, and I have new bushings, seals, and a good used axle tube that I'm installing.

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Posted July 13, 2014 - 05:57 PM

Thanks for that, yeah, i see that, bet there was some slope there ! keep me up dated so when,...if...i ever get the time i will go through Squire 9 like you are doing to the B-1.



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Posted July 13, 2014 - 06:11 PM

You got it Trowel, and I'm taking pics as I go along. Just give me a shout anytime and I'll help out. I just cleaned and reassembled the BGB on the Big Ten I'm restoring now. I installed new seals, including a new seal where the shims go. I found some original .047 thick National oil seals and was able to reinstall the 5 shims that were removed. The shims are flush with the BGB housing and now I have to attach it to the trans and bolt it to the tractor frame.
Oh, and the pics are of the same side axle tube bushing. I took two pics of it to show how worn it was on the top side. Both the left and right bushings were worn the same way.

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Posted July 13, 2014 - 06:16 PM

I take the BGB was tight in all dirctions and did not require new bearing ?



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Posted July 13, 2014 - 06:26 PM

Yup, the Big Ten needle and ball bearings were in great shape, but I did replace the woodruff keys in the BGB shafts that retain the BGB gears. The front needle bearing on the 64' Landlord has some play, so I'll be doing bearings, seals, and woodruff keys on that one. It's been a learning curve working on these Allis/ Simplicity tractors, but it's getting easier.

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Posted July 13, 2014 - 06:36 PM

yeah, that's for sure, i was able to reuse all the keys but the one on the input shaft, had to hammer it out and replace.

 

It still has a bit of slop from the gear teeths being worn a little, i might break it down again and replace the teeth if new ones can be found, i know some of the slop is also from the tranny gears also but she is 50 years old and spent most of her life as a mower in CT.

 

Are you going  to replace the old rubber couplings with the driveshaft fiberglass couplings ?


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Posted July 13, 2014 - 08:16 PM

Classic; wouldn't hurt to check the numbers on your engine. The chrome air cleaner first came on the 12HP engines. Some one may have liked the look and swapped it or you may have a 12 in your BigTen...Dave


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