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#1 sacsr OFFLINE  

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Posted July 07, 2014 - 07:21 AM

I have an idea for 3pt hitches and trying to figure out how many GT models (potential customers) are out there.
I don't know all the models that each manufacturer made that were available with 3pt hitches. Any feed back would be appreciated.

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Posted July 07, 2014 - 08:29 AM

Simplicity only offered them for Sunstar and Legacy tractors.  They are very scarce vs the frequency of other brand 3pt sightings I am aware of.  Any time one pops up for $500-700, it's gone quickly.  Seems Case, Cub and Deere 3pts are quite common by comparison, around here.  JD and Cub have good aftermarket sources already I believe.

 

Of course there's the baby 3pt on Sears tractors.  Some of the larger Wheel Horses had them...Massey's, Bolens, etc used them too.


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Posted July 07, 2014 - 10:35 AM

Later Power Kings of course! Not the lift hitch, which was a drawbar, but the actual three points used later. MTD had a "sort-of" 3pt, but diff system than most. You gonna start making generic ones?  I have built one for a PK, using another as a guide. Hardest part is making adjustable lift links. The main arms and the rockshafts aren't too hard to make. AND, it all matters on where or how you are going to get it to lift also. Hydraulics or ?? etc.  There is a couple of makers of 3pt parts on web if you do searchs. Hard to find them doing Cat 0 tho, most start at Cat 1. If you look for a "Compact" tractor, the Cat 1 for those seems smaller and will work on GT's in some cases.


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Posted July 07, 2014 - 10:38 AM

JD has had them on the older GT's and on the newer Super GTs like X475, 575 and x700 series. The tractors like the 345, x345 can only take the sleeve type hitch.


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Posted July 08, 2014 - 04:46 AM

Seems to me pretty much any GT big enough to use a 3pt already has them as an available option in one form or another, and theres quite a few aftermarket ones available, plus alot of GT owners are "DIY" type people and are capable of building one themselves, I think ne1 planning on making a product for profit would have to have a very unique idea to break into the market with any amount of success, which may also involve doing alot of R+D, getting a patent, licensing, spending alot of $$.... and then trying to market it to a customer base where a large portion of those potential customers want "original" equipment for their tractors, whether its the hitch itself or an addon attachment... could be a tough crowd to sell an new idea to.

 

but then your not giving us alot to go on


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Posted July 08, 2014 - 04:57 AM

Scott, biggest challenge is the 3-points differed from brand to brand. Some arms may work on different brands, but lift links were different. I know you don't want to divulge too much info, but they can be a challenge. Now that I know I can bend the lower arms, I can make mine. Again, lift links are the biggest challenge.


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Posted July 08, 2014 - 06:27 AM

Thanks for the info guys, my idea is an attachment, I am just trying to get an idea if there enough 3pt gt owners to make it worth pursuing.

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Posted July 08, 2014 - 06:56 AM

Sounds good, Scott! Hope you can fill a void that is there!



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Posted July 08, 2014 - 12:57 PM

I agree with Kenny... the biggest challenge may be the wide variety of 3pt style hitches on garden tractors... but if its something than can be upscaled and marketed to compact and full size tractor owners that may widen the potential customer base somewhat.... but there is still the DIY guys on one side and the brand loyalists on the other... we are a fickle bunch...lol



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Posted July 08, 2014 - 04:43 PM

Since he's talking about an attachment all it needs to be is within the CAT 0 specifications for pin size and width.

 

Sears was the only MFG that I know of that used a non standard 3-pt size.

 

It would be a plus if he made it easily convertible to CAT 1, as that would give him the sub-compact market as well.


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Posted July 09, 2014 - 09:42 AM

Since he's talking about an attachment all it needs to be is within the CAT 0 specifications for pin size and width.

 

Sears was the only MFG that I know of that used a non standard 3-pt size.

 

It would be a plus if he made it easily convertible to CAT 1, as that would give him the sub-compact market as well.

 

Or make it in a sleeve hitch option also....???? 



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Posted July 09, 2014 - 07:31 PM

This would only be for hydro tractors. I don't think it will work for a sleeve hitch. Thanks for the info!

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Posted July 10, 2014 - 09:30 PM

Interesting subject, 3PT hitches. I have 2 MF 1650 garden tractors and both came complete with CAT 0 3 PT hitch and rear PTO. My work in progress is 316 John Deere. I have just started to fab a CAT O 3 PT hitch for it. And will somewhat copy the MF's complete with it own separate hydraulic cylinder. I use the MF 3 PT hitch for plowing large gardens and grading soil.


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Posted July 17, 2014 - 05:19 PM

Don't forget about the older Ariens GTs with cat 0 3 points.
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Posted July 18, 2014 - 10:13 PM

Just a thought, but there's a lot of limited cat 1 hitches out there and they're still being produced.  A limited cat 1 implement works pretty well with cat 0 if you get longer 5/8 pins and turn them backwards.  Might be worthwhile to provide some sort of adaptor kit for cat 0 and just build a cat 1 machine.


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