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#1 ridezzz OFFLINE  

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Posted June 29, 2014 - 02:28 PM

Hey guys,
I don't have any spark from the plug wires,is it worth testing the coil or should I just pop for a new coil?
Does this have points, and if bad can points cause this?
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Posted June 29, 2014 - 02:44 PM

I have one and yes it has points and if they're bad you won't get any spark or at least not enough to fire. If you have absolutely no spark, and just going by memory, I would check the seat switch and the PTO switch. If memory serves both switches are interlocked with the feed to the coil, so you won't have 12volts at the top of the coil if one of them isn't making a connection. Sometimes it's just a bad connection so look for loose, damaged or burnt wiring or connections. You also need a good connection from the engine block back to the battery - terminal. 


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Posted June 29, 2014 - 03:54 PM

Is it an Onan P series, Onan B series, or a Kohler?

 

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Posted June 29, 2014 - 07:36 PM

Kohler KT 17 Ben



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Posted July 03, 2014 - 10:46 AM

Sorry, yea it is the Kohler KT 17,series 1. Thanks for the switch info Moderator! I'll look at that.

I priced coils today and the cheapest i found was over $200. Is there another alternative should it need one?

Thanks again for the help

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Posted July 03, 2014 - 11:33 AM

As Brian said, check the safety switches, connectors and/or wires and also ground from battery to block.  If all that checks out get a meter and start seeing where you have power and you don't then you can go from there to see where the problem is.



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Posted July 03, 2014 - 07:45 PM

On most electrical trouble shooting I like to work backwards, in this case it would be power to the coil, then the interlock switches and so on.



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Posted July 12, 2014 - 06:32 PM

Ok guys,
Sorry its awhile. Looked at it again today and found a loose connection where the condenser connects to the points.
Tightened it and started and ran fine.
Until it was at the same spot in the yard where it quit the 1st time the trouble started.
It did restart this time tho when i put it on flat ground. Tried it again....same thing.
It acted like it ran out of gas.
Any ideas here?
Would a new carb be an answer, or should I try bypassing the fuel shutoff valve?
Are there any filters inside the carb?
Thanks for great help
Rides

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Posted July 12, 2014 - 08:40 PM

Does the 317 have a tank screen filter at the bottom of the tank like the 200 series?

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Posted July 12, 2014 - 10:16 PM

Does the 317 have a tank screen filter at the bottom of the tank like the 200 series?

There is a strainer.


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Posted July 13, 2014 - 07:43 AM

Ok thanks. Will look at the strainer and filter today.
Btw I should have mentioned that it only quits when the left side ( to the driver) is downhill.
Thanks guys!




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