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#1 propane1 ONLINE  

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Posted June 24, 2014 - 07:23 PM

Saw a four wheel steer 425 John Deere today cutting grass. So since I have 3 acres or so to cut with trees and other things to go around, I was wondering what is your opinion on four wheel steer tractors are. I don't know what brands made it , but saw this John Deere today. I am not actively looking to buy one , just wondering what you like and dislike about them. Seem to turn and only leave about a foot uncut when going back down the reverse way. Must have power steering too, this John Deere I saw. Any way just wondering, Noel.
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Posted June 24, 2014 - 08:42 PM

The 425 is a slick machine.  I've run one and I do like them.  The main drawback is the cost.

 

If I was looking for something just to make long grass short, I'd buy a zero turn mower.

 

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Posted June 24, 2014 - 08:50 PM

My opinion haveing a 445 and 455 for mowing they will turn just as sharp as the 4 wheel steer ones the 425 was not fuel injected but it tough to beat the power of a 455 for mowing and fuel efficiency


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Posted June 24, 2014 - 09:47 PM

Works great for grass, but you can get in trouble with it on your first pass in deep snow.

No known reliability issues. They run the smaller 23x10.5x12 tires on the rear, and you need spacers to use tire chains.

Someone please correct me if I'm way off, but I thought the uncut circle with the 54" deck is 22" on 2ws, and 13" with the aws.
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Posted June 24, 2014 - 10:33 PM

I had an Eagle Star (Noma) with four wheel steer for many years. It was OK and kind of felt like you were steering on ice as the rear came around. Would I spring for one again? No. As it got older and and things started to wear I got harder to steer and wandered around more than I cared for. It did turn sharper but the mower I have now has a foot controlled hydro so in the  long run I don't think there is any time savings with the all wheel steer.  

If I was really concerned about tight cornering I would get a zero turn.


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Posted June 25, 2014 - 05:56 AM

Interesting!

 

 

I think. it's not so easy to drive on street, but in the yard it's great.


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Posted June 25, 2014 - 10:39 AM

I think a 425 with 60 inch deck would turn as sharp as a 425 with 54 and 4ws


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Posted June 25, 2014 - 08:00 PM

Interesting!

 

I think. it's not so easy to drive on street, but in the yard it's great.

 

Just the person I wanted to see drop by this thread. Is there any chance you could send us a 415 to try out? You can send it C.O.D.! (oops, not sure that one is available with aws)

 

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Posted June 26, 2014 - 08:16 AM

Just the person I wanted to see drop by this thread. Is there any chance you could send us a 415 to try out? You can send it C.O.D.! (oops, not sure that one is available with aws)

 

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pardon, don't understand - please explain, what shall I send COD and for what do you need a (seat-) aws? Is the pic made in D?



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Posted June 26, 2014 - 09:35 AM

Wolfgang

 

I think he means that the 415 was not a model we got in North America but was a European model. So if you sent over a 415 we could try it!


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Posted June 26, 2014 - 12:54 PM

The model isn't important, it the all wheel steer technic that interests me. Never seen this tractor working, they're real exotic!



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Posted June 26, 2014 - 04:59 PM

My F-I-L picked up a x72? with 4 wheel steer as an alternate to a zero.  It has a 62" deck and it is a beat!  I would agree that it is not good on pavement and takes some getting used to while mowing.  Once you get the hang of it the machine will cut some serious grass.  He also picked up a snow blower for it.  While not cheap, it is a very versatile machine.


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Posted June 27, 2014 - 06:29 AM

I had a chance to try a x749 which is diesel, 4wd and 4ws. It was quite a eye opener to actually feel how much more maneuverable it was then a X475 which I was familiar with.






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