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#1 Pager450n OFFLINE  

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Posted June 17, 2014 - 11:32 PM

I have the opportunity to run up 5 hrs north to pick up a potential project/restore of a classic (based off of research) squire lawn tractor. Based off of huge pics, things look good considering the age of the machine. I have had several old machines come and go in my shop, executives, cubs , john deeres, but never a montgomery ward, let alone a squire.

Any thoughts about the model, history and worth it? I'm game for the drive, and the chance to rescue a l&g tractor, let alone a old one like this.

Will post more pics once on the trailer:)

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Posted June 18, 2014 - 12:43 AM

That is a early 60's Simplicity built Squire (a rebadged Simplicity 725).  A great tractor ! Nice find.


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Posted June 18, 2014 - 04:17 AM

:ditto:  looks like late 62 to 63, a project garden tractor, looks complete, the tiller pulley that is attached to the sleeve hitch is a nice addition, the nice later trip type plow, looks like the engine is original to the tractor which would be a Briggs model 19, 7 1/4 hp.

 

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Posted June 18, 2014 - 04:58 AM

Oh boy...I see all sorts of red flags...I'll just bullet point them.  The Simplicity 725 is probably in the top 3 most commonly found GT's made by the company, and the Squire only differed in the hood badges and tires.  This tractor doesn't have it's Riverside tires, but your badges look nice.  I'd have a real hard time driving any distance for it unless it was at a parts tractor price.

 

Red flags

-Does it run?

-Dash is cut up...these did not have gauges

-mismatched tires

-plow is not trip style...not even Simplicity built (the hitch is)

-no sleeve hitch, looks like a homemade ball mount

-tractor appears to have been broken in half.  Welded (poorly) in front of the BGB with added steel on both sides

 

Green flags

-Does it run?

-Tiller PTO, if complete is $100 easy

-Has Sicklebar lift components...another $50

-badges might get $15-30 each on 'da Bay

-AG tires could be good, but mismatched

-Hood looks to be in good shape

 

It would make a good parts machine, or donor to build a complete Squire.  Like I said, 725's are all over the place, for dirt cheap.  A running one in real good shape can be had for $200.  This tractor has an easy $150 in accessory parts you could sell, and hopefully end up ahead, plus some cash plus a free machine.  If it doesn't run, I wouldn't give much.  She's pretty darn beat.  I've seen many cracked frames, but never a hack job repair like that.


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Posted June 18, 2014 - 05:26 AM

I'd bet not having a trip blade [plow] is why it was broken in half.  I ran a non-trip blade on a Bolens tube frame once and broke the front cast piece that holds the front axle right off the frame. 

 

Thats a seldom seen tractor.  Give it the luv it deserves.  :thumbs:



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Posted June 18, 2014 - 07:04 AM

It it were cheap (or free), and close, I'd pick it up, set the hood aside, and look for a late 725 in better condition to drop it on, then sell the accessories to fund the project.  If everything besides the frame, dash and seatpan look good, maybe a donor 725 would work. 



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Posted June 18, 2014 - 07:05 AM

I mostly agree with Talntedmrgreen . I have a 700 with a broken and flitch plated frame. I have 2 others. My 725 did a bunch of plowing last winter. Around here a real nice 725 goes for about $400. I recomend them and the later 10 hp because they are currently under valued. There are alot of attachments for them and they are still pretty easy to get parts. Check out  www.simpletractors.com   . My favorite tractors are my dozen Allis Chalmers/Simplicities and my 10 Bolens. Good Luck, Rick

 

One little thing, if you are taller than 5' 10" the 725 will feel small. I'm 6' and prefer the bigger B10s.


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Posted June 18, 2014 - 08:55 AM

Thanks guys, the owner is asking 100 for it. He says it was on his newly acquired property and needs it gone. I guess I could offer 50. I'd hate to see this go under as a parts tractor, I'd get rid of the plow and anything other than a rolling chassy.
Thanks for the heads up!
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Posted June 18, 2014 - 09:03 AM

Here's some more pics
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Posted June 18, 2014 - 09:18 AM

Yeah, like i said, project tractor, lots of good parts, hope he takes the $ 50 offer.


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Posted June 18, 2014 - 10:47 AM

Yup, $100 or less would be great...the drive stinks, but I can appreciate your enthusiasm. 

 

That isn't an original engine...which may work out better for you.  Looks like a 23 cube...it has a 4 bolt carb vs the earier 3 bolt.  Looks like the points are gone too.  Might be an ignition conversion.


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