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#1 propane1 ONLINE  

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Posted June 17, 2014 - 05:39 PM

 This is an engine I just put together two weeks ago. Was having a lot of trouble with not having any power and over heating badly.  14 hp kohler.  So tonite found out the points had closed from the setting I had them at. Reset them to proper setting, adjust the carb and went and cut some grass. Wow did it ever work better. Push on the hydro and the power would set you back in the seat. I figured, great its fixed, then all of a sudden I saw smoke from the front of the engine, so got off and oil every where. First thought was front oil seal, then broken block, then realized it was gushing out and shut of engine. Drain plug fell out.  Why do these things happen to me.   Noel

 

Needed to change the break in oil any way, I guess, and wont have to cut the grass there for awhile. Hot oil!  Good thing no environment people around!!    

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Posted June 17, 2014 - 06:09 PM

Hey! Another one of Me!!  Thought I was only mechanical guy with gremlins and hexes on the stuff I work on!  Couldn't be MY errors, someone must be messing with us, right? :D


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Posted June 17, 2014 - 06:26 PM

Not the oil plug , but I get gremlins no matter how much planning and checking I do . Always overlook something.
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Posted June 17, 2014 - 06:38 PM

That's unfortunate. I hope you caught it in time.

Why would it have smoked? Was the PTO clutch throwing it at

the exhaust?


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Posted June 17, 2014 - 06:46 PM

Your doing better than me. I'd a never found the thing after it fell out. Good thing you noticed what was going on and now the fix is easy.


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Posted June 17, 2014 - 06:52 PM

I hope you caught it in time to save the engine! Grass will grow back, may be a while though!


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Posted June 17, 2014 - 07:20 PM

Hope it's just a loose drain plug fell out.


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Posted June 17, 2014 - 08:26 PM

Yes , had temporary muffler on for a test to figure out why it had no power. But the exhaust was not the problem. Oil went all over the front and muffler. Had the grill, bonnet and side panels off at the time. Noel I did make sure the drain plug was in and tight when I put the engine together.

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Posted June 17, 2014 - 09:09 PM

time to change the drain plug bearing!!!


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Posted June 17, 2014 - 09:59 PM

time to change the drain plug bearing!!!


Or at least get it aligned. :rolling:

Glad it was caught early and with probably no side effects.
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Posted June 17, 2014 - 10:07 PM

This is an engine I just put together two weeks ago. Was having a lot of trouble with not having any power and over heating badly. 14 hp kohler. So tonite found out the points had closed from the setting I had them at. Reset them to proper setting, adjust the carb and went and cut some grass. Wow did it ever work better. Push on the hydro and the power would set you back in the seat. I figured, great its fixed, then all of a sudden I saw smoke from the front of the engine, so got off and oil every where. First thought was front oil seal, then broken block, then realized it was gushing out and shut of engine. Drain plug fell out. Why do these things happen to me. Noel

Needed to change the break in oil any way, I guess, and wont have to cut the grass there for awhile. Hot oil! Good thing no environment people around!!

If it was turnin when you shut it down, chances are it's gonna be ok. To get smoke takes oil movement, that means something has to move the oil around. If there is oil to move around, then oil is getting sloshed ALL over inside too. Ya see, the only reasons for more oil than you think would be needed inside are for, cooling, and lube, thats it! If it were to stop turning, NO LUBE, thats BAD, means no lube, or gor got really hot. I be a bettin man, you put her back together, and you will be fine!

Edited by stiemmy, June 17, 2014 - 10:08 PM.

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Posted June 17, 2014 - 11:55 PM

Brake out the Dawn liquid detergent, it'll clean up the mess on the tractor; what happens to the grass--- stays on the grass,  lol.


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Posted June 18, 2014 - 06:41 AM

As far as happen to me?  Yup but not quite the same.  Bought a new 5 hp B&S to put on a customers log splitter, mounted it and fired it up, ran fine for about 30 seconds and died real fast.  Put on a new engine and remember to put oil in the second one.  Had lots of good fairly new parts though.


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Posted June 18, 2014 - 06:51 AM

You didn't run over the drain plug with the blades cutting it in two. The pieces didn't get thrown at your car's windshield, etc..

 

See! Your getting better at this.


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Posted June 18, 2014 - 06:59 AM

When pulling the Sears Roto Spader out of storage i tipped it forwards and dragged it out, loaded on to trailer and brought down to the shop, looked back and seen a trail of oil, apparently when i tilted the tiller forwards i snapped of the the pipe for the sump drain, needless to say the broken end came out ok and now had a drain plug in it but the was a heck of a spill to clean up off the barn floor.


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