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#1 HowardsMF155 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 09, 2014 - 01:05 PM

Between being out of school and actually feeling fit enough to remain on my feet for extended periods of time, I've pulled into the engine on my Ford Ranger.  It is the 3.0L V6 from 1999 with about 160,000 miles on it.  When I stopped driving the truck, it was because combustion gases were being pushed into the coolant and forcing the coolant out the overflow tank.  Perhaps a year before I started having issues, the engine was suddenly a quart low on oil one day, but there never seemed to be any other issues in the oil department.  Probably 6 months after the oil disappeared, I noticed the overflow tank was "mucky" and changed the coolant, which I think now is where the oil disappeared to, though it could have been mucky due to already having combustion gases being blown into it.

 

Right now I've pulled the engine down to the block and the heads hold pressure, but the machine shop guy says that there is an issue with the exhaust valve seats.  It sounds like it is going to run up to $400 to do it right for both heads.  So, just to put the engine back together I'm looking at between 500 and 600 dollars and the bottom end is still untouched.  Further history with the bottom end, at around 60,000 miles the oil pan gasket squeezed out from between the block and the pan, and I think the rear main seal may be leaking.

 

Remanufactured engines will run around 1700 for this truck.  

 

Has anyone traveled down this road before?  What did you do, what do you wish you had done?  I can say, I had someone else rebuild an existing engine for me many years ago and I wasn't overly happy with the workmanship, though the engine ran strong the rest of the time I had the truck, and since I sold it locally, I still see it going strong after 15 years total on the rebuild. 



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 02:05 PM

I wanted to add some information and pictures.  I haven't looked much at the piston and cylinder condition, and didn't do a compression test before teardown.  However, I did notice that the cylinder which had issues also has a bit of coolant sitting in it and there is some visible rust in that cylinder.

 

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Posted June 09, 2014 - 02:11 PM

And some shopping on Ebay shows a pair of remanufactured heads for $340, which is about what the local parts store wants for a single reman head.



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 02:36 PM

Personally IF I wanted to keep the truck for another 100k plus miles I would buy the reman engine.  If I only wanted to drive it a little and trade it off I'd buy those reman heads off ebay and put it back together then sell it on craigslist or trade it in on a different truck.

 

General assumptions, KBB values a 4 wheel drive extend cab 3.0 5 speed XL with base options at $2450.00   I don't entirely agree with that price, but that's what they say for private party value.  I wish I could find a nice Ranger 4x4 for 2450 dollars....

 

Personally I say it depends on your plans for the truck.  I have a 1999 Ford Ranger BASE 2.5 4 cylinder 5 speed that I wouldn't trade for the world.  I LOVE that little truck.

 

Uncle Willie keep your anti ford stuff to yourself :D


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Posted June 09, 2014 - 08:11 PM

 

 

Uncle Willie keep your anti ford stuff to yourself :D

 

You didn't mention my name so I guess it's game on for me   :poke:  :poke:  :rolling:

 

In your last pic, it sure looks like the head gasket was blown on the top left of that bad cyl between chamber and the water hole. Bet that was your problem. 


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Posted June 09, 2014 - 08:26 PM

It sounds the world like a blown head gasket, If it was me I would just replaced the gaskets and kept on trucking.



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 08:55 PM

If it was me, I'd put a Tommy Gun magazine full of silver bullets in it until I could find a grenade to do the job properly, but only because I drive a 2001 Ranger with a 3 litre engine that I absolutely hate and don't have access to a M106 recoilless riffle anymore!!!  



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 08:56 PM

Have you looked into a used engine ?  I've had good and bad luck . My son's 96 Gran Am  V6 , 3.1 about 80k from a salvage yard  if I remember correctly  lasted  about 30k  Daughter's  98 Saturn 1.7l   that had about 80k on the motor too that's been in now for 90k , 196k  and other then the front seal leaking oil  it's been a good one


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Posted June 09, 2014 - 09:04 PM

If it was me, I'd put a Tommy Gun magazine full of silver bullets in it until I could find a grenade to do the job properly, but only because I drive a 2001 Ranger with a 3 litre engine that I absolutely hate and don't have access to a M106 recoilless riffle anymore!!!  

 

At a guess, you have the manual transmission.  I drove a Nissan for 13 years before driving this truck, never had any real problem.  Bought this truck and kept stalling it when starting, I thought it was because I wasn't used to the clutch engagement point.  After a couple of years, I figured out its because the 3.0 lacks torque.

 

Have you looked into a used engine ?  I've had good and bad luck . My son's 96 Gran Am  V6 , 3.1 about 80k from a salvage yard  if I remember correctly  lasted  about 30k  Daughter's  98 Saturn 1.7l   that had about 80k on the motor too that's been in now for 90k , 196k  and other then the front seal leaking oil  it's been a good one

 

I did check on used engines.  Nearest one I found is in Virginia, and they want $1200 for it.  For another 500, I can get reman with a warranty too!



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 09:09 PM

 $1200 for that motor used is just crazy  lol .  I paid about $300 for those engines from 2 different yards .


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Posted June 09, 2014 - 09:13 PM

 

It sounds the world like a blown head gasket, If it was me I would just replaced the gaskets and kept on trucking.

 

According to my shop guy, I have an issue with my exhaust seats and they need replacing, hence the 4-500 price tag.  I wanted to talk to him face to face this afternoon, but pulled up at 4:15 and they closed at 4:00.

 

I did talk with my oldest son this afternoon.  I bought this truck brand new a few days after he was born, and planned to drive it till he was old enough to drive, then pass it to him.  It has certainly had its problems however, starting with repeated brake issues, the oil pan gasket blow-out, needing a new clutch at 135K miles, worn out "A-Link" ball arms and then the head gasket blowing out.  On the other hand, it's been paid for for years, and has driven around 160k miles.

 

A quick check of local sales turned up two trucks of similar age, with higher miles, selling for 3500 to 4000.  My son isn't sold on a truck, even though he thinks this one is "neat", and has some doubts about learning to drive a stick shift.  As I think about it, this might be the worst truck for him to learn to drive on.



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Posted June 10, 2014 - 05:29 AM

I did a quick CL search this morning and nothing came up , maybe there aren't that many good used 3.0 motors so that's  why they can ask so much ?  idk    Heck when I bought the 88 Firebird Formula  to use as a doner  for the 82 Malibu , it was side swiped and rough but the guy drove it to my house and only paid $1400 for that lol     I'll do a little more checking around here , don't know how far it's worth driving for a engine though . Good Luck  


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Posted June 10, 2014 - 05:55 AM

I did a lot of top end work on a 2.0 in an Escort Wagon I drove. I miss that car and its great mileage, but months after driving it out of the garage, I lost a connecting rod. I drove it to work, parked it, came out at lunch and it would roll over. You could hear the clunk.
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Posted June 10, 2014 - 06:56 AM

I can't believe you guys had so much trouble with 3.0s.  My 2000 3.0 5 speed was a beast.  that thing went nearly 300k miles before it spun a rod bearing.  I traded it in.  The dealership sold it to another mom and pop dealership they put a junkyard engine in it, and as of 2 years ago the truck was still going strong.  I actually talked to the owner of it at a gas station and he loved it.  Only had a little rust on the tail gate.

 

I put brakes, tires, oil changes, sway bar links, and that's about it.  I was still running on the original clutch.  That truck was off roaded, at one point had 33" tires on it with a body lift.  I attached it to a trailer once that was way too heavy, and put it in 4 wheel low and a combo of the weight on the rear and pulling broke both rear springs and pulled the rear end half out from under it.

 

I must of got a good one!   

I thought that KBB price was low, like I said I wish I could find one for that price, I wouldn't sell my 2 wheel drive one for 2450.


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Posted June 10, 2014 - 10:53 AM

 $1200 for that motor used is just crazy  lol .  I paid about $300 for those engines from 2 different yards .

 

I'm worried I may have to put a motor in my wife's Jeep Liberty. I've done searches, finding one w/ 80-100K still goes $1500-1700

A reman will push 2500-3000.

I can find used running SBC for $2-300


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