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#46 iZach98 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 13, 2014 - 08:41 PM

Thanks Tom, i'll probably be getting the lincoln. Just want to hear a few more opinions on lincoln. And i gotta price everything out to see if i can afford it.


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Posted June 13, 2014 - 08:57 PM

Zach, I looked at the specs. It has 4 heat settings, that's better than the HF at only 2 settings. It should give you more temperature options. It doesn't say what the duty cycle is. HF is only 20%. zach that means it can only run 20 minutes then rest for 80 min. ( simplified answer) in that price point that's about right. Now that means continuous, so if you release the trigger and take a break in between welds that counts as down time. Hope this helps. I'd do lincoln over HF IMO Tom

While that is a simplified answer, I'm pretty sure 20 minutes is too long.  Somewhere I've seen a recommendation of 2 minutes then rest, can't say which welder that was on.

 

Ok, a quick check of the manuals on the HF site shows that the duty cycle is based on 100% being 10 minutes.  So, 20% duty cycle is 2 minutes followed by at least 8 minutes of rest.  

 

Also, I happened to see a steel welding table for sale at HF.  I noticed that it has a zinc coating to prevent rust.  Isn't that going to release dangerous fumes, just like galvanized stuff, when welding on the table?

 

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Posted June 13, 2014 - 09:28 PM

One thing for sure Zach is your doing your homework first. My livelyhood depends on my tools. I find it very hard to buy something I don't know about. I'm looking to buy a MIG myself & I like the Eastwood models but leaning more on major brands. Over the years I have done without a few times until I can afford to buy what I really want.

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Posted June 14, 2014 - 04:45 PM

While that is a simplified answer, I'm pretty sure 20 minutes is too long. Somewhere I've seen a recommendation of 2 minutes then rest, can't say which welder that was on.

Ok, a quick check of the manuals on the HF site shows that the duty cycle is based on 100% being 10 minutes. So, 20% duty cycle is 2 minutes followed by at least 8 minutes of rest.

Also, I happened to see a steel welding table for sale at HF. I noticed that it has a zinc coating to prevent rust. Isn't that going to release dangerous fumes, just like galvanized stuff, when welding on the table?

Zinc table.JPG


I always thought duty cycles where based on 1 hour. So 10% would be 6 minutes am hour.
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Posted June 14, 2014 - 08:10 PM

So, i was talking to my parents and they said, because of the sales this weekend. We can go and get welding stuff for my b-day. (It is July 6th) so tomorrow we are going to home depot to get welding and metal tools.
I now have a total of $520
$300 for b day
$140 in wallet (not very often do i have this much cash in my wallet lol)
$80 from allowance and mowing the lawn and working around the house.
So ive been looking more and more on hone depot web site and now that i have $520 i may get the lincoln mig welder, http://m.homedepot.c...#specifications
This would give me the ability to upgrade to gas later on, Which is always nice. Whats your thoughts, need info asap as i said I'm going tomorrow morning. I'll probably get a set of metal drill bits while I'm there.
So i'll get
-welder (maybe the mig)
-welding clamps
-welding helmet
-gloves
-angle grinder (either dewalt or craftsman)
-metal drill bits
-some material
What type of material would i need to build a plow for my wheel horse? I was thinking angle iron. Thoughts?



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Posted June 15, 2014 - 04:52 PM

sorry i didn't catch this in time but i agree on being able to upgrade to gas later.  Tom


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Posted June 15, 2014 - 07:38 PM

Alright, so i got all the tools at home depot today. I went with the $270 lincoln weld pack HD welder, And here are a few pics. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1402878772.576163.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1402878779.958858.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1402878787.193781.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1402878795.558646.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1402878802.442973.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1402878808.702379.jpg
Got all that for a total of $530, not bad in my opinion. I think i did pretty good. Haven't tried the welder out yet, but i will after school tomorrow. Also the pic of the angle steel and Al and the square tube steel. I got for about $15 at home depot, pretty good prices if you ask me. I thought welding and metal work was 10x the price of what i spent. Boy was i wrong. I know metal working tools can get very expensive, but its not to much just to get into metal work. I'll post sone pics of how i do with my welds tomorrow.


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Posted June 15, 2014 - 07:49 PM

Good deal. Get yourself an assortment of good clamps and vice grips as well.

Cheap welding for thin metal is easy to get into. Doing big time metal work cost some cash.
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Posted June 15, 2014 - 07:53 PM

Good deal. Get yourself an assortment of good clamps and vice grips as well.

Cheap welding for thin metal is easy to get into. Doing big time metal work cost some cash.

Thanks. Oh yeah, i forgot to get some clamps at home depot today. Well i have some other clamps i can use to hold the metal to the table while welding.
Are these the clamps your talking about? http://m.homedepot.c...18SM/100352526/


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Posted June 15, 2014 - 08:12 PM

Exactly and some of the regular ones too. Those are extremely helpful.

I like the magnetic angles too.
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Posted June 16, 2014 - 03:57 PM

good luck. practice good safety and try to be repetitive to get good habits. and post some pics


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Posted June 16, 2014 - 05:35 PM

So i got to welding. Just on a piece of metal. I think its steel, not sure though. Here are my welds... ImageUploadedByTapatalk1402958075.364527.jpg
I will post more pics after i weld some more. What do you think of my first welds?


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Posted June 16, 2014 - 06:03 PM

looks good to me

to check you weld

try doing a butt joint and try the break the weld

you can also cut the butt joint to see if you are getting good depth penetration


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Posted June 16, 2014 - 06:57 PM

Looks pretty good.

Welding takes practice and more practice and when you think you know it all more practice.
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Posted June 16, 2014 - 07:07 PM

Those are pretty nice beads just need to work on your speed and uniformity ( weaving side to side ) so your beads stay the same width. Your machine looks to be set pretty good. Carry on and keep practicing.
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