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#1 cpg OFFLINE  

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Posted June 08, 2014 - 08:43 PM

I have always loved the look of the Massey Ferguson tractors so I finally picked some up. They obivously need a full restoration; were in a field and plan was to make one from the two tractors. However, I only have one transmission which is a hydrostatic and is on the frame with no hood. I was going to use the sheet metal off the other tractor (MF 10) to make a complete tractor. I have a Tecumseh HH120 in need in a rebuild that came with it which I know would have been in the 12.

 

I initally thought I had two 10's and the engine for a 12; plan was to just make that into a restored 10 as the HH100 and HH120 are pretty much identical other than I think some displacement. The more I look however; it seems that the 12 was availble as the hydro or variable speed and the 10 just came with the variable speed. If that I so I guess I will have a MF 12 with 10 sheet metal; just wondering if I am correct or did the 10 come in hydro? So to sum up my questions:

 

1. Did the 10 come in a hydrostatic?

2. Is the sheet metal the same for the 10 and 12 except for decals?

3. Are the 10 and 12 the same just with different engines?

 

I guess the answers to those questions will determine whether I look for more parts and try to build and 10 and a 12 or just make them into one if they will be compatible.

 

Thanks for any help and info. Massy's are new to me but I have always dreamed of owning a restored one.

 

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Posted June 08, 2014 - 09:02 PM

Looks like the start of a Massey at least. :thumbs:
The 10 was never sold as a hydro
The hood, dash and grill is the same as far as I know, but much is different from the tower back.
The 10 & 12G is the same tractor with a different engine, the 12h is a different frame, seat pan, etc.

The tranny used in the 10's is a very common peerless. Many tractors used the model with a few differences (some important, like bolt location and brake band on the left or right side.)

You will love the tractor either way you go. If you do assemble one from the two, what would be its work load? That may help us point out the attributes of one way over the other.

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Posted June 08, 2014 - 09:48 PM

I can't help you with the differences between the models, but it looks like you  got a good nose piece and that's hard to find for sure. Good Luck.



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 06:46 AM

Good nose piece and 2 plastic consoles. The spare console will be worth good money if you decide to sell the parts that are left over. 



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 08:32 AM

Thanks for the info guys. So it does look like I have a 12 hydro without a hood and grille and a 10 with all the sheet metal but no drivetrain. When I thought they were the same tractor I thought it would be good to make one but since they are two completely different models I might just look for some sheet metal and transmission and have both a 10 and a 12. I will keep this thread updated with the project; whichever way I decide to go. Thanks for the help.


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Posted June 09, 2014 - 10:15 AM

There were some pieces in the classifieds, might look there.

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Posted June 09, 2014 - 02:03 PM

Alan, aka MH81 told ya right.  Best go with it as an MF12H.  Sheet metal all the same.



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 02:03 PM

Ok thanks, I will take a look there for some parts. After some searching I have access to an older running 10hp Kohler for free and that brought up another question. Did the 10 ever come with a Kohler or just Tecumseh? If I could make it fit and look nice I would just have to find a transmission and some 12 sheet metal.



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Posted June 10, 2014 - 02:14 AM

Hard to tell for sure in the pictures, but it looks like you might have

a very early MF10, with aluminum dash, and hood nosecone.

That would be special, and reason to restore back to original.

The 10 and 12 used Tecumseh engines. The 14 and 16 used Kohler.



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Posted June 10, 2014 - 03:40 PM

Well, guess I could have just done this from the start but I got the serial number tags cleaned up enough to read them.

 

The one with the hydro and no hood is a 12: serial number 1446516054

 

The 10 is serial number 1446018108

 

I checked the dash of the 10 and it is fiberglass/plastic so maybe not an early model but I would still like to restore them both; might have a lead on some parts. If I do go back to really original I guess I will keep looking for a Tecumseh for the 10 as well. Does anyone know how to figure out the year(s) of these from the serial numbers? I am curious as to what year they are.



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Posted June 11, 2014 - 05:55 AM

Build dates by serial # list is available in the manuals section here.

 

http://gardentractor...date-by-serial/

 

Lots of other good stuff there too.



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Posted June 11, 2014 - 06:52 AM

The 12H is a 71
The 10 is a 69
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