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#1 MyBolens1053 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 08, 2014 - 03:53 PM

Hi all,

 

Some of you know I have been working on transplanting a TRA-10D from a 1050 to a 1053. When I started there was alot of cleanup The motor turned by hand just fine and can feel a little resistance on the pressure stroke. Changed oil, have new spark plug ready, put a tablespoon or so of oil in the cylinder and turned the motor over with the starter, no problem. Wanted to lube the walls and valves to be sure nothing will damage this motor.

 

So far, everything is looking good. So I put the spark plug in, but, not feeding fuel to it yet. I go to turn it over and now the starter seems to be struggling with turning over the motor. Battery is fully charged and charger is on as well.

 

Suggestions?



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Posted June 08, 2014 - 04:56 PM

How much oil did you put in the cylinder?  Is it hydro-locking?


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Posted June 08, 2014 - 05:03 PM

Gap is correctly set on the points? Had an issue with a briggs where someone before me had set the points incorrectly. The motor struggled to crank wearing down the battery in the process......set the points right and it now it cranks easily every time. Probably not your issue, but worth making sure.


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Posted June 08, 2014 - 05:26 PM

Put about a tablespoon full of oil in the cylinder. Unit isn't hydro. Gear driven. It's in neutral.

Turned by hand before mounting in tractor, turned with plug removed by the starter. did that to coat the upper cylinder wall and valves.

When I put the new plug in (Champion D-16J) the starter seems to struggle turning this motor over. I am not feeding gas to it yet.



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Posted June 08, 2014 - 05:38 PM

I had a similar problem with my 1556 . It turned out to be the mower deck and pto. Un did the deck and she turned over great.
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Posted June 08, 2014 - 05:48 PM

Take the starter off and rope start it ..... if it turns easy you have a problem with the starter....


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Posted June 08, 2014 - 06:17 PM

I had a similar problem with my 1556 . It turned out to be the mower deck and pto. Un did the deck and she turned over great.

 

No PTO attachments on the tractor and PTO lever is disengaged.



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Posted June 08, 2014 - 06:20 PM

Take the starter off and rope start it ..... if it turns easy you have a problem with the starter....

 

Rope turning of the engine proves a little hard to turn, but it does turn.



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Posted June 08, 2014 - 06:23 PM

Rope turning of the engine proves a little hard to turn, but it does turn.

 

Does it get easy to turn at any point when it is not on the compression stroke? If its real tough to turn all the time you have something going on internally.


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Posted June 08, 2014 - 06:28 PM

Does it get easy to turn at any point when it is not on the compression stroke? If its real tough to turn all the time you have something going on internally.

 

It turns easier when it's not compressing.



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Posted June 08, 2014 - 06:42 PM

If that's the case sounds like your starter needs attention.



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Posted June 08, 2014 - 07:14 PM

Hydro locking the engine is where you put too much oil in the cylinder and on the compression stroke the piston gets "locked" because the oil doesnt compress. The piston cannot make it to TDC because the oil is in the way.

 

Pull spark plug and turn the engine over with the starter several times. Then put the plug back in and see if its better.



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Posted June 08, 2014 - 07:36 PM

Hydro locking the engine is where you put too much oil in the cylinder and on the compression stroke the piston gets "locked" because the oil doesnt compress. The piston cannot make it to TDC because the oil is in the way.

 

Pull spark plug and turn the engine over with the starter several times. Then put the plug back in and see if its better.

He said he put a teaspoon of oil in, and he has turned the engine over several times now. Sounds like a starter problem.



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Posted June 08, 2014 - 10:43 PM

He said he put a teaspoon of oil in, and he has turned the engine over several times now. Sounds like a starter problem.

He actually said "tablespoon", so hydro-locking is a real possibility, especially when he also indicated that it turned over easily before he put the spark plug back in.



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Posted June 09, 2014 - 07:18 AM

Sounds like the starter to me.  If it was hydraulic lock, it wouldn't turn past TDC on the compression stroke with the rope or starter.






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