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Posted June 11, 2014 - 07:18 PM

Sounds like you had a productive day. It's looking good. How do you use the duck? I know of putting copper behind a hole to weld it shut but the duck looks like it would be awkward to use.

 

Unless it's a well trained duck, that stays on command, I'm wondering the same thing.

There must be a secret trick to it.


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Posted June 11, 2014 - 07:24 PM

Unless it's a well trained duck, that stays on command, I'm wondering the same thing.

There must be a secret trick to it.

I was thinking a trick duck that stands on its head. The only flat spot is on the bottom unless the back is wide and flat enough to lay the piece across.


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Posted June 11, 2014 - 07:29 PM

The duck is flat on the bottom, but has every conceivable curve on it somewhere.  It always fits exactly where it is needed to backstop a weld.  It is brass so the weld never sticks, but is reasonably smooth on the bottom side.  I hold it in place while I weld.


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Posted June 11, 2014 - 07:30 PM

Maybe a ring magnet in the base?


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Posted June 13, 2014 - 08:07 PM

I thought today was going to be all about the handle bar assembly, but the tractor had other ideas: it wanted to talk, and oh what stories it told.

 

The handle bar assembly was in rough shape: the clutch lever shaft was welded to the handle bars, the throttle lever had been moved, the throttle cable was held on with jubilee clamps, they needed to be re-painted, and the grips were worn to limits.  Should be simple fixes.  Cut the shaft, remove the the offending pieces and then prepare the bars for painting.

 

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All went well until the shaft bounced off the table & landed in an unusual position.  That is when I spied the third set of holes!  What ever could they be for?  The 1st set is for the powered implements.  The second set is for the clutch.  It took me a couple of hours to remember that Waterloo introduced a reverse mechanism in the mid 50's.  None of my manuals show it, or make reference to a different shaft.  Guess that dates my manuals.

 

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Later on, I was doing some mindless wire-wheeling with the grinder when all of a sudden, this pops up!

 

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I had to get a better look, so I cut the ratty old hand grips off.  Thats when surprise #3 struck.

 

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They are yellow!  Everyone I had seen was white, or so they appeared.  Guess they are just sun faded.

 

Anyway, here is what the rest of the imprinting said.

 

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To top it all off, I got to use my rebuilt sickle mower & the Allis HB112 today to cut some clover for our rabbits.  Off topic, I know, but it was fun.

 

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Posted June 13, 2014 - 08:14 PM

Very cool, David Bradley, Planet Jr, Gravely and others has the steel companies maker's mark rolled onto the handle bars. That is cool, your tractor is prepped for the ad-on reverse. Never knew it was even offered for the Waterloos.

 

Glad to see Sickle service was able to provide the needed teeth, looks like it cuts very well, i need to pull out mines and try it.


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Posted June 13, 2014 - 08:36 PM

Actually, I had to reuse the teeth.  I emailed Sickle Service twice but never got a response.  Guess the US economy is back running on all cylinders & they don't need customers.  I tried using their online store, but when you go to check out, it tells you the item exceeds the maximum length for shipping.  That's why I emailed them.



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Posted June 13, 2014 - 08:45 PM

Actually, I had to reuse the teeth.  I emailed Sickle Service twice but never got a response.  Guess the US economy is back running on all cylinders & they don't need customers.  I tried using their online store, but when you go to check out, it tells you the item exceeds the maximum length for shipping.  That's why I emailed them.

What ? that's BS !! i just got a bran new Flo-Jet carb in the mail yesterday shipped from your country.

 

How many do you need and which type of teeth? i'll contact them myself with the specs, i want to order new teeth for mines too and this may be it then.


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Posted June 13, 2014 - 08:51 PM

SKU is 207-232.  I'd like to get 30.  That's enough to replace them all & still have spares.  I will bring the cash to Keene this weekend.

 

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Posted June 13, 2014 - 09:14 PM

How about rivets, you need them too ?


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Posted June 13, 2014 - 09:20 PM

No, I managed to find those locally.  Book calls for #6 x 1/2", but 3/16" x 1/2" worked just fine.  Got a box of 100 overnighted for $15.


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Posted June 13, 2014 - 09:48 PM

No, I managed to find those locally.  Book calls for #6 x 1/2", but 3/16" x 1/2" worked just fine.  Got a box of 100 overnighted for $15.

Your order has been received

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You will receive an order confirmation email with details of your order and a link to track its progress.

 

As soon as i get the tracking # i'll let you know, shipping is slow up here in the hills even with UPS.


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Posted June 14, 2014 - 07:01 PM

Today was help the wife in the garden day, so only minor progress.  Primed, painted & clear coated the handlebars & engine carrier.  Tomorrow I am off to Keene for the 18th Annual Father's Day Smoke & Steam Show.  Maybe Monday I will get back to playing "Where is Waldo".  I need clean nuts & bolts for putting the tractor back together.

 

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Posted June 15, 2014 - 06:10 PM

Today was a crappy day for a couple of reasons, but I still managed to learn more about the tractor.  

 

I only had an hour, so I tackled an easy job: the clutch rod.  It was bent out of shape in two directions.  It was easy enough to straighten, but it just looked wrong so I took it over to some of my other tractors.  It enters the clutch lever from the opposite side when compared to my 15 & my other 20, but the same side when compared to my 40's.  It is also longer than the 15 & 20 rods.  At some point, Waterloo switched the design to better accommodate ... something.  

 

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Also, the bottom hole is not drilled throught the center of the rod.  Again with the poor quality control.

 

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My next surprise came when I gathered the axle collar locks for degreasing.  First off, there were only 3 of them.  My 15 had 4: two to lock the axle in the Gearbox, and two more to keep the wheels in place.  This tractor has, and the manual specifies, three: two for the wheels & 1 for the axle.  Again with the cost cutting.

 

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The next surprise came after I degreased the axle collar locks: one is green and the other two are yellow.  Makes sense when you think about it, which I hadn't.  The rims and hubs are yellow.  Only makes sense those collar locks would also be yellow.

 

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Posted June 15, 2014 - 06:57 PM

I wish I could find where to get one of those clutch levers like you have. I still need to figure out the clutch for my homebuilt. Your hoto was erfect to show me how to.







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