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#1 New.Canadian.DB.Owner OFFLINE  

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Posted June 05, 2014 - 07:35 PM

Time to start a thread on restoring my Waterloo 20.  It is serial number 6455, which gives it an approximate build date of 1955 or 1956, assuming my dating technique is not erroneous.  This tractor came to me without an engine, so I had to use another tractor to date it.  I have a Waterloo model 182 (sold under the model name of "Boy") bearing serial number 6155.  It has an original Briggs 6S engine with a build date of February 1955.  

 

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When I got the tractor, it had a hideous Briggs with a reduction gearbox.  Someone had welded a mounting plate onto the frame so the engine & gearbox would align with the driven pulley.  I cut that off shortly after getting the tractor.  I also opened the gearbox & dealt with the rust issues back then.

 

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One of the main stumbling block to getting started on the restoration has been the bearings for the idler pulley.  Stupid, I know. I have a manual.  It specifies a B108x roller bearing and an IR-612-1 inner race.  The bearing was $5.34, but the inner race was $33.26.  I need two of each.  Too expensive for this lad.  That would be more than I paid for the tractor.  I was thinking it would be a parts tractor.  Recently, I found an alternate for the inner race (IR 061012) for just $9.80 per so we are off to the races with the resto.  So far, I have cleaned up the gearbox, cover and hitch.

 

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I am going to need to do some welding & metal work on the frame.  One of the lugs is missing and there is a crack that was revealed when I removed the mounting plate.

 

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As I dig deeper into this project, I begin to wonder if the product line was the victim of poor QA.  Note the mold crack, uneven finish and the deep grinding on the cover.

 

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Posted June 05, 2014 - 10:11 PM

I'll be following this one,  Might as well learn something about Waterloos from the guy who knows all about them!

 

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Posted June 05, 2014 - 10:44 PM

Ditto to that. I'm looing forward to seeing this Waterloo brought back to life.

I'll be watching as you go Mark.


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Posted June 06, 2014 - 07:45 PM

Only had a few hours tonight, so I tackled the other main defect: the deformed engine carrier.  As you can see, the front edge had been bent and there are serious gouges on the side rails.  The damage was caused by the worn & missing mounting lugs allowing the front count-weight to bounce around.  

 

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I managed to straighted the front face enough for an Agricultural implement.  I am not going to fill the gouges as they tell part of the story of this tractor.  I also managed to weld the corners together again.  I still need to weld in new mounting lugs, but I am out of 1/2" round rod.

 

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On the question of what killed the product line, I noticed tonight that the hitch on this tractor (high sn) is slightly different than my model 15 (low sn): there are no brass bushings in the axle housing.  At some point, they dropped the brass bushing, maybe to cut costs.  We all know where that leads.

 

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Posted June 06, 2014 - 08:10 PM

That looks so much better.

I bet that took a bit of pounding with a big hammer.


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Posted June 09, 2014 - 08:37 PM

That looks so much better.

I bet that took a bit of pounding with a big hammer.

Big hammer and even bigger anvil!

 

Not much progress to report.  Today I played "where's Waldo", also know as wire wheeling hardware for painting.  While I was painting those, I also primed & painted the hitch.

 

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I also managed to get the clutch rod end, idler arm, and input shaft housing wire wheeled & coated in Rust Off!.  

 

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I pulled the worn bushing from the input shaft housing, only to discover the input shaft is also worn (0.010" under) at that point.  Wonder what it will cost me to get a new shaft made?

 

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Posted June 10, 2014 - 06:59 AM

Well this is a strange one,on my Waterloo 20 the front face had been cut at both corners and bent horizontal. No idea why because the front weight bar would never mount right,so I use a big vice and bent it down and welded the corners again. Makes me wonder what were people trying to do to these poor units ? Cheers and good luck going to try for Keene this weekend there is a show on Sunday at Lang Pioneer Village  hope we can make a show this summer like to hear more. Mike


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Posted June 10, 2014 - 07:42 AM

 

 

 

I pulled the worn bushing from the input shaft housing, only to discover the input shaft is also worn (0.010" under) at that point.  Wonder what it will cost me to get a new shaft made?

 

 

Wouldn't it be simpler to smooth up the shaft and make an undersize bushing?


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Posted June 10, 2014 - 11:44 AM

Wouldn't it be simpler to smooth up the shaft and make an undersize bushing?

Problably, but if I had a metal lathe I would just make the shaft.  Anyway, I just dropped it off at the machinist.  $40 for a new one.  Ordered 3 (gotta have a spare).  Should be ready next Tuesday.


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Posted June 10, 2014 - 08:04 PM

Well this is a strange one,on my Waterloo 20 the front face had been cut at both corners and bent horizontal. No idea why because the front weight bar would never mount right,so I use a big vice and bent it down and welded the corners again. Makes me wonder what were people trying to do to these poor units ? Cheers and good luck going to try for Keene this weekend there is a show on Sunday at Lang Pioneer Village  hope we can make a show this summer like to hear more. Mike

Keene is only an hour-ish from me.  Sunday you say?  


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Posted June 10, 2014 - 08:11 PM

Hour-ish for me too, wonder if i could make it ?


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Posted June 11, 2014 - 08:26 AM

hope this is not off topic Mark,but here is the info

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Posted June 11, 2014 - 03:11 PM

hope this is not off topic Mark,but here is the info

Not at all.  Thanks for the info.  Wife says I can go.  Maybe we will meet up.


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Posted June 11, 2014 - 03:24 PM

Today was a mixed blessing: a day off work but raining.  Spent most of the day in the garage working on various projects.  Managed to get the front implement studs installed and "fixed" the elongated bolt hole.  Then it was on to preparing it for paint.

 

Started by cutting two chunks of 1/2" cold rolled round rod 3/4" long.  The masking tape helped keep the cuts straight.  Then I installed the front counter weight to get the alignment correct.  Installed the stubs & welded them in.

 

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The elongated hole required that I dig out my welding duck to fill the hole. Then I re-installed the front counter weight for alignment, again.  Re-drilled the hole & then ground it smooth.  The I applied a coat of Rust Off.  

 

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Posted June 11, 2014 - 07:02 PM

Sounds like you had a productive day. It's looking good. How do you use the duck? I know of putting copper behind a hole to weld it shut but the duck looks like it would be awkward to use.


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