I want to conduct a fuel breakdown test. I am going to buy fuel from different gas stations, and set up samples in jars. I will have a control jar for each. Some jars will be open to air/atmosphere, others will be sealed. I would like to add staaabil and other additives to them and see what happens.
Who else has nasty gas pics!?
Any other suggestions for my gas deterioration test?
Oh don't get me started on this new blended fuel! It's the scourge of the earth to me. I'm a farmer, but not a grain farmer, so all the blended fuel does for me is drive up my feed prices I pay, and ruin carbs!
Up here one of the three in town gas stations sells "recreational gas" which is supposed to be alcohol free and 90 octane. I have been using it in everything,, including for customers, except my truck and diesel engines for about four years now and it has made a big difference in the number of carb kits I have installed. It does cost about the same as premium gasoline though.
Well, I would most def pay a little extra to get non ethanol gas. I need to buy a drum of VP110 race fuel for my truck eventually.. My plan is to add a little to my small engine gas cans in hopes that the additives will make it keep longer.
Its a problem everywhere. Every Lawn and garden dealer I have spoke with have said the new fuel is just killing the carbs , eating the gaskets and bronze parts ect. 80% of mowers that are coming into shops are with fuel related ethanol problems.
With a shelf life of 30 days I guess that's to be expected :wallbanging:
I use what they call " Recreational Fuel" here locally. It's .40cents more a gallon but it has no ethonal in it. Good luck with the test. Will be interested in the results. Roger.
puregas.org is the site to visit, to find the station nearest you that carries non-ethanol fuel. You can edit existing info or add a station if one you know about isn't listed.
It is my understanding that our county Co-op station has a pump with "non-ethanol", and is more expensive.
Ethanol fuel only has about a 30 day shelf life.
I hate the stuff! I add a can of Sea-Foam to every 5 gallon can of fuel I buy for the small internal combustion engines I have. I even put Sea Foam in the motorcycles. I don't add any conditioner to the truck, as gasoline doesn't stay in the truck very long!
I don't know???? I have heard lots of complaints about ethanol but I myself have not had any issues. I use all my stuff regularly or at least run it monthly, I did once put stabil in my Cadillac before I put it up for the winter but in the spring it ran like crap for the first two tanks of fuel till I got the stabil out.
That when we got it, back in 1978, been running it ever since and have never had a bit of trouble with it. I've seen several problems in other peoples stuff, like foam floats get eaten, and stuff that looked like rock candy in fuel bowls, so I suppose there is some problem with it. I believe some of it is the way you use and store your equipment.
Instead of waiting a month for your samples to absorb atmospheric moisture, go ahead and add water to your samples. You will start to see phase separation almost immediately in samples that contains ethanol and no fuel additives. It will be interesting to see how long the separation takes with a fuel additive in it.
Besides accelerating your experiment, you will be able to keep your samples sealed which will be safer or you.
Lucas ethanol treatment works great. I'm sure there are probably other products that do to, but my old cubs have clean fuel system and carbs using Lucas ethanol treatment. However I do run high test gas.
And it smelled good and looked good. Now it stinks and looks like watered down pee. Fortunately some local stations are starting to sell 91 octane, non-ethanol gas. Unfortunately they want around 60 to 75 cents more per gallon. Still doesn't look like the old gas but it smells a little better.
yeah they have had gasohol for over 30 years now but there is "something" difefrent about the crap we have been able to buy these last 5 years or so....the gasohol I bought while I was a teen in the 80s, never did to carbs what todays "fuel" does
I must say I disagree with the whole ethanol debate. I run 87 ethanol gas in everything I have besides my weedeater because it will void my warrantee. What we have here is companies building piss poor parts to save money. It's not the gas it's the cheap materials that these companies make carb kits it of.
I must say I disagree with the whole ethanol debate. I run 87 ethanol gas in everything I have besides my weedeater because it will void my warrantee. What we have here is companies building piss poor parts to save money. It's not the gas it's the cheap materials that these companies make carb kits it of.
I am glad it works for you but my old equipment doesn't like the "new" gasoline any more than my new stuff does. Same for my customers. Some of my top money-makers last year were due to the new gasoline (over 60 carb rebuilds and 11 new carbs) so I guess I don't want to complain about the new gas too much. Perhaps if the owners actually read and followed the owner's manuals it would be different but again I am not complaining. On the back of every invoice I give my customers I print my suggestion that the owner use non-ethenol gasoline and where to purchase it locally.
I must say I disagree with the whole ethanol debate. I run 87 ethanol gas in everything I have besides my weedeater because it will void my warrantee. What we have here is companies building piss poor parts to save money. It's not the gas it's the cheap materials that these companies make carb kits it of.
I would say I have to disagree with you. Being on the "Dealer" end of things for a couple years now I have experienced and have heard the horror stories of guys that have been doing this for 30-40 years. Especially older equipment that was never designed to run on this crap.
Don't even get me started on what I think of ethanol.
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