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Posted May 13, 2014 - 11:31 PM

Any word ?

The owner emailed me this this morning. The tractor is still for sale.  He said it runs fine and he hasn't had to put anything into it.  He's away from home this week, so he couldn't answer all my questions--like how many hours and how long he's owned it- so I'm waiting to hear on that. 

 

I'm fairly certain it's a Vietnamese Refurb. But, if he's owned it for several years with no problems, then it may be a safe bet.

 

The ad says it's an F16D, but it's actually the FX16D, which is the power shift model.  The F series has models with two digits and with 3 digits.  The 3 digit models had a lot of fancy electronics, including the lift control for the 3 ph, but no manuals in English--the link on Hoye Tractor says to avoid them. 

 

I checked parts availability for the F16 at Hoye, and it isn't bad... things like the clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing, water pump starter, head gasket, etc. are readily available.  The F16D uses many common parts with the YM1610--don't know if there's a US equivalent to the YM1610, but I feel pretty good about availability of parts.

 

Now if I can just get the hours , etc from the seller, and get down to Las Vegas to look at it!!

 

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Posted May 13, 2014 - 11:56 PM

I know a guy that imports tractors. He has been to Vietnam and looked over the re-manufacturers. Seems many are not very good but some do a very proffessional job. If the owner has had it for a while and has had not problems with it than your probably good to go. 

Like you the open floor plan is very appealing I just hope it is big enough to accommodate you comfortably.

Best of luck to you on this one Smitty. 


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Posted May 14, 2014 - 12:45 PM

I know a guy that imports tractors. He has been to Vietnam and looked over the re-manufacturers. Seems many are not very good but some do a very proffessional job. If the owner has had it for a while and has had not problems with it than your probably good to go. 

Like you the open floor plan is very appealing I just hope it is big enough to accommodate you comfortably.

Best of luck to you on this one Smitty. 

 

Thanks, Chris.

 

One of the reasons I went to several dealers and drove numerous tractors over the past couple weeks is to get an idea of the size and series of machine that I can use comfortably. For example, I found that I fit pretty well on the Mahindra Max series (made by Mitsubishi), but not so much so on the e-Max (made by Dae Dong in Korea).

 

I drove a Kubota B7100 gear drive, and found it to be a little cramped. I also drove a Yanmar YM1610D-- a little larger than the Kubota, and with shuttle shift--problem is the shifter is in the middle of the operators platform--near the dash--also drove a JD790 and a JD 750 gear drive--I've found that it's hard for me to get into most gear shift transmissions because, aside from my 6'0"and 300 lbs, I wear size 12 shoes (have to get 'em at Newport News shipyard and remove the port and starboard running lights :D ) Anyway, it's hard to get me feet through the various levers, etc. Another reason to buy a hydrostat, or, as in this case, and tractor with an open platform and the shifter on the fender.

 

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Posted May 14, 2014 - 06:54 PM

 

 

 Anyway, it's hard to get me feet through the various levers, etc. 

My brother in-law had a Yanmar 1700 and as much as I liked it I kept finding myself tangled up in levers and pedals. Nice tractor but I didn't buy it. 



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Posted August 09, 2015 - 11:38 PM

Just purchased a Yanmar F15D a week ago.  I've put 10 hours on it since then. The last time I drove a tractor was in the 70's.   I'm 6', 260 lbs and wear size 13 shoes and manage to negotiate the pedals fine.  This model is 85"s long, (short,) the F16D is 92"s, not sure what the extra 7"s are for.  This thing has three speed ranges.  Low is super slow and good for downhill excavating.  (I have very sloping graded property.)  setting 2 is where I do most of my work.  You can scoot along pretty fast in high range.  This thing has an aftermarket Front End Loader, (Buhl,) and does just what I expect it to do.  When I got it, it had 1017 hours on it.  It sets your idle speed with a lever and has a throttle pedal on the floor, (I find that a little tricky where it's located, but manage fine with it.)  The floor throttle is the only issue with it.  In range 2, where I do most of my work, I normally use reverse and 2nd to work in, they are opposite each other and for a non-hst tractor gives you maximum shifting speed.  Sometimes it doesn't synchronize when shifting out of reverse so I put it back in reverse and nudge it, and shift back into the gear I wanted.  Saves grinding the gears.  Great tractor if you have relatively level ground, but a little dangerous otherwise.  No seat belt and no ROP.  


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Posted August 20, 2015 - 10:48 AM

Just purchased a Yanmar F15D a week ago.  I've put 10 hours on it since then. The last time I drove a tractor was in the 70's.   I'm 6', 260 lbs and wear size 13 shoes and manage to negotiate the pedals fine.  This model is 85"s long, (short,) the F16D is 92"s, not sure what the extra 7"s are for.  This thing has three speed ranges.  Low is super slow and good for downhill excavating.  (I have very sloping graded property.)  setting 2 is where I do most of my work.  You can scoot along pretty fast in high range.  This thing has an aftermarket Front End Loader, (Buhl,) and does just what I expect it to do.  When I got it, it had 1017 hours on it.  It sets your idle speed with a lever and has a throttle pedal on the floor, (I find that a little tricky where it's located, but manage fine with it.)  The floor throttle is the only issue with it.  In range 2, where I do most of my work, I normally use reverse and 2nd to work in, they are opposite each other and for a non-hst tractor gives you maximum shifting speed.  Sometimes it doesn't synchronize when shifting out of reverse so I put it back in reverse and nudge it, and shift back into the gear I wanted.  Saves grinding the gears.  Great tractor if you have relatively level ground, but a little dangerous otherwise.  No seat belt and no ROP.  

Thanks for the info... the seller never did get back to me and didn't answer my emails.

 

I bought a Kubota B7100hst with FEL and backhoe, but the manual steering was a pain.  I sold it last spring and bought a Mahindra Max 25hp with FEL.  It's been a great tractor so far.  My biggest gripe is the fuel tank is right in front of the dash and it's a pain to put fuel in without spilling it.  A couple other minor issues is the protective overlay for decals on the dash and fender is starting to come off, and the turn signal lever is on the lower left side of the dash and the lever points down... I keep hitting it with my knee and turning on the LH signal.

 

This tractor came with the industrial type tires, which the dealer swore had better traction than ags (and which I knew to be complete BS)... I think the rears have the standard 6 hole bolt circle of most compact tractors, but the front wheels have a 5 lug pattern.  Does anyone know of a wheel that will fit that so I can mount R-1s, or is it a dealer item only???


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Posted August 05, 2016 - 01:18 PM

I am looking at buying an EMAX 25 with loader and belly mower. Do you still have yours? if so, how do you like it after a year?



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Posted August 05, 2016 - 05:58 PM

I am looking at buying an EMAX 25 with loader and belly mower. Do you still have yours? if so, how do you like it after a year?

It's still going strong, and no additional complaints other than those I already mentioned above--except 1.  You have to remove the right side panel from the engine compartment to check the oil.  It isn't hard--it's steel and it just snaps into place, I just wish I could do it without that extra step.

 

I did put a set of ag wheels and tires on it--had to go to 4 different places for the best deal, but was able to do it for $700 incl freight... The industrial tires don't have near the grip the ags do, plus I got about 2" extra height out of it.

 

The rears are 9:50 x 16 and the fronts are 6x12s... The rear wheel pattern is the standard 6 on 6" spacing like the Bolens, most Kubotas, etc.  The front is a 5 on 4.5 spacing--same spacing as the rears on most older GTs.

 

I don't have a belly mower so I can't address that, but my FEL works well.  The metal is fairly thin, and makes you think it's not very sturdy, but it's rated at about 900 lbs lift force so it beats a lot of the other machines in it's class. One upgrade I did was to get a double beveled 6" x 3/4" cutting edge with standard Highway punch. The cutting edge on the bucket is hardened steel, but I was able to get through it using a carbide masonry drill and steady firm pressure. I then used standard plow bolts to mount the edge. I had to cut some off the edges to fit the bucket. I highly recommend you do this to save the expense of cutting out a worn out blade and rewelding a new one in.  Since they're hardened, they have to be preheated or they'll crack...

 

Regards,

 

Smitty


Edited by Utah Smitty, August 05, 2016 - 06:03 PM.

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