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Posted May 09, 2014 - 07:34 PM

I have 2 of these engines (horizontal shaft, 422400) with rods and cranks out of them. I got a Vertical shaft engine from a member here hoping to use the crank and rods for one of these. Well, the Vertical crank has a much longer end on the PTO part of the shaft. Tomorrow, I am going to talk to a machinist to see if he can shorten that shaft to the horizontal specs. Everything else on the cranks are the same. Here's a pic of the two shafts.

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I have the manual showing the different cranks and specs for them. I printed out copies for him to take with him if he can/will do it. Hopefully, I can get one of these engines running again. I think I can use the vertical block and just put the horizontal pan and cover plate on it. Won't know for sure till I start putting it together.


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Posted May 09, 2014 - 08:02 PM

Good luck, I'm not good in that area , so I will be no help with ideas.
Do you have a use for the engine ? Or just tinkering ? Tom

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Posted May 09, 2014 - 08:08 PM

Good luck, I'm not good in that area , so I will be no help with ideas.
Do you have a use for the engine ? Or just tinkering ? Tom

Yeah! It goes on the Craftsman II. But I may use some part off the Craftsman III I have sitting beside it. Or put the body on the III and use it. It has a working electric lift. That's where I got the P220 Onan for the #2 FF.


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Posted May 09, 2014 - 09:52 PM

Kenny, that's pretty straight forward machining and he shouldn't have any problems doing it for you, if he does cal me !!


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Posted May 10, 2014 - 05:49 AM

I don't think he will either, but he does some things 'on the side' so will see if he is able to fit this in.

 

The biggest issue with you doing them would be shipping as they are heavy!


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Posted May 10, 2014 - 06:26 AM

Kenny before  you shorten it just think on the different pulleys you could add on to that shaft !  I  bet you would come up with all sorts of neat things to run off them


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Posted May 10, 2014 - 07:04 AM

Kenny before  you shorten it just think on the different pulleys you could add on to that shaft !  I  bet you would come up with all sorts of neat things to run off them

But I couldn't install the Electric PTO then! Plus the crank would stick out the grille!



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Posted May 10, 2014 - 08:38 AM

It would have a pulley sticking out like my. AC B10. Lol
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Posted July 21, 2014 - 06:16 AM

I got the crank back this weekend! Looks great and should work fine! Only issue is he went with the 7/16" threads that the vertical had. Think I can open the hole in the PTO to work. Now to study the manual so I can get one of these running again. Thinking of using the Vertical block and converting to Horizontal on it. Wish me luck. I'll try to get a pic this evening of the cranks.


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Posted July 21, 2014 - 06:41 AM

You can convert almost all verticals to horizontal by using the oiling related parts from the horizontal engine, crank, oil pan, etc... I've seen several done this way as horizontals are getting harder to find.


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Posted July 21, 2014 - 07:15 AM

The vertical ran great, so I should be good to go. I now have another 18HP vertical that is real smooth running.


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Posted July 22, 2014 - 10:55 AM

Does the vertical Briggs have mounting holes for horizontal mounting??

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Posted July 22, 2014 - 07:16 PM

Does the vertical Briggs have mounting holes for horizontal mounting??

No. I'll take pics of the differences once I get going on it as I have another vertical that is all together.



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Posted July 24, 2014 - 07:16 AM

I've been looking up gaskets and a new oil dipper for this. Not sure if I will get them from B&S or Jackssmallengines. They are about the same price, just need to check shipping. Hope to start on this soon.



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Posted July 24, 2014 - 06:01 PM

Here's a before & after on the cranks!

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