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#1 theoldsod OFFLINE  

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Posted May 06, 2014 - 09:58 PM

Hello All at GTTalk,

 

I recently acquired the tiller shown below. I was in the process of taking it apart when I took the pics because it needs work. It came with a gold Briggs vertical shaft engine - 3 3.5Hp. A real classic! I have searched high and low on the Internet in an attempt to ID it and am not having much success. To some degree, the closest match I could come with is a Bolens Mustang (not the super mustang) or an Allis Chalmers of some sort.

 

Any help with information would be greatly appreciated - I just can't let it go. ;-)

 

Best regards!

 

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Posted May 06, 2014 - 10:47 PM

:welcometogttalk:

 

Sorry can't help you out with Iding.



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Posted May 06, 2014 - 11:12 PM

It reminds me of a David Bradley or Sears Rotospader.


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Posted May 07, 2014 - 05:24 AM

Welcome to GTTalk !  Not much help from me ,but hope someone here will be able to id it for you



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Posted May 07, 2014 - 05:28 AM

Do you have pics of the handles and motor? Often, the other parts will be what someone notices.

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Posted May 07, 2014 - 05:45 AM

You were close but this is the Bolens Mustang Junior!


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Posted May 07, 2014 - 06:26 AM

Junior looks tough.



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Posted May 07, 2014 - 07:05 AM

This one's a little newer, with new style tines but this will give you an idea of what the top looked like

The gearbox was used on this series tiller from the 50's to late 70's

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Posted May 07, 2014 - 07:20 AM

Wow. They don't make them like THAT any more! What a little beast!



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Posted May 07, 2014 - 02:59 PM

These ones always fascinated me with the engineering and quality behind them. Instead of belts they used a drive cone and disc to drive the tines, I found a NOS one I'm saving for when I find one of these to restore :D



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Posted May 07, 2014 - 08:39 PM

Firstly, thanks to everyone who responded, much obliged!

 

Mr. Bolens 1000, you have made my day! And that's saying something given that I was in the dentist chair today at 10:00am and dropped $1350 bucks on auto repairs later this afternoon!

 

After seeing your post this morning, I searched on the net using your description and came across a brochure on eBay that confirmed your ID - it looks like mine might be a late 50's Mustang Junior. I did come across the the black and white picture of the tiller you posted early on in my search which lead me to believe mine may be a Bolens as well but there are subtle differences in the tiller main casting and the handle bars; my handle bars are one piece and have a knob on the end of the tine engagement rod.

 

Unfortunately, my tiller needs a worm gear - it has more teeth issues than I do at the moment. Not the actual worm itself but its bronze counter part; the gear on the tiller shaft. There is a fella on eBay selling a similar gear on eBay right now but it was intended for the Super Mustang. Amazingly, like Rod Serling amazingly, he lives in my home town and I was able to drive 10 minutes and set my gear right on top of his. My gear is about 200 thou smaller than his and there are subtle differences in the teeth geometry so I was not confident that it would work, although my gear is so destroyed that maybe the diameter difference may be due to this. He was not the machinist reproducing the gear but was selling them on eBay for his friend. He did say that this particular gear was used on several different Bolens tillers - see the link below if you are interested.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1e8a805989

 

Anyway, Mr Bolens 1000, if you have any part number information on the worm gear or anything else for that matter, I would really appreciate anything you could share.

 

Once again, thank you all - the journey has been a fun ride so far and I will add that throughout my research, I was AMAZED about how many companies made tillers back in the day and really enjoyed looking at all the different designs, ads and brochures. I think I'm becoming a tiller geek! 

 

Best regards,

 

Mark


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Posted May 07, 2014 - 09:22 PM

Yours is definietly 50's

I probably have the partslist for this I can send you

 

 

I'm going to have to start writing this stuff down, I got about 20 messages the past few days of people needing a partslist or picture of something! :D :firejumper:


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Posted May 07, 2014 - 09:36 PM

WoW! That would be GREAT - Thank you!

 

Did you happen to look at the link for the gear on eBay?

 

Thanks!



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Posted May 08, 2014 - 06:00 AM

Could one of these be fitted.

 

http://www.mcmaster....d-gears/=rvhff1


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Posted May 08, 2014 - 10:04 AM

This should be your model or close to it, hard to get a 100% match without the top half and ID tag.

 

http://gardentractor...-tiller-manual/


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