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#1 Capn1805 OFFLINE  

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Posted April 29, 2014 - 07:28 AM

I just picked up a YT16H (I know, it's not a big garden tractor), and the deck drive belt is bad.  The tractor number is 9607432 and the deck is number 09GN3683.  It seems like Gilson changed little things every year in the 80s so nothing is quite the same.  I'm currently sifting through the service manuals that KennyP (think that's his handle) posted.  Also, should the PTO spin even if there's no belt on it?  If the tractor is on and running will it engage with no tension on it?  I get the red light so it looks like there's power going to it but the pulley doesn't engage.

 

This is my first tractor so I guess my cherry has been popped with this one.  All in all it's in good shape.  It runs pretty well.  The deck belts for the blade spindles are new, just that drive belt was bad.  Any help would be appreciated.


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Posted April 29, 2014 - 08:21 AM

The deck drive belt hopefully is an 0.66" W X 50.10" L (NH part # 86514566). Is the old belt good enough to get an estimate of length? On the PTO, you may have some wiring issues going to it. Not real familiar with these tractors.


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Posted April 29, 2014 - 08:56 AM

I went to Messicks to look at diagrams and I'm coming up with .66x48.13  http://www.messicks.com/NH/59207.aspx part diagram number 33.  Do you think a 5/8x48 would work?  5/8 is .625 but would that 48 in be short enough that I couldn't get the belt on?

 

Old belt was in pieces and previous owner tossed it.  I'm new to this so I didn't even think to ask.  I didn't think it would be this hard to figure it out to be honest.


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Posted April 29, 2014 - 09:06 AM

The info I posted was for a year earlier deck, so this may be the one you need. Is the tractor# you posted above the serial? What is the 09GN # for it? We might be able to get the year of this using the engine #'s.


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Posted April 29, 2014 - 10:54 AM

The deck is 09GN3683 SN YC07210 7E 20 *141 (the 141 is pretty worn so I'm guessing).  The tractor is 9607432 SN YG00304 73361.  I don't have the engine number with me.  I can get it when I go home for lunch.

 

Kinda need to get this tractor up and running so my wife doesn't kill me for buying a mower that doesn't mow!  :mad2: :shoot2:  :D


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Posted April 29, 2014 - 02:47 PM

Went ahead with the 5/8x48....I'll report with what I find.


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Posted April 29, 2014 - 03:25 PM

I think you may be okay with that belt. Messicks says that is a 1988 year model and the deck drive belt is the one you ordered.


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Posted April 30, 2014 - 06:58 AM

Report, Ford YT 16H 9607432 1988 with a the Ford 48 inch deck 09GN3683 1987 works fine with a 5/8x48 v-belt.  Picked up one of the Kevlar ones from TSC.  $19.07 later I'm ready to mow.  Hopefully if someone else needs this info in the future they can find it here and not go through the pain and suffering (had to post on a forum and search the internet, so hard right?) I had to endure.

 

Now the PTO mystery.  The PTO switch is off but the blades are spinning.  I'm thinking it might be reversed.  When I looked yesterday I turned it "on" before I got off the mower to look at the drive and it wasn't spinning.  I didn't toggle it.  But for now, I bought the mower to cut the grass and it cuts the grass so I'm satisfied.


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Posted April 30, 2014 - 07:26 AM

So the PTO switch is reversed? That would be a simple fix! Thanks for putting the info in there. We get a few folks looking for info on these tractors.


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Posted May 03, 2014 - 08:26 AM

Further update.  It's either the wrong belt, I have it routed wrong, or I need a new spring on my tension pulley.  At first everything was fine...and then I smelled the belt.  When I went downhill there's enough tension on the belt that it was cutting, but when I went horizontally (which would be the preferred method of cutting my lawn)  there wasn't enough tension.  I'll keep this updated until I find the exact solution.



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Posted May 03, 2014 - 08:51 AM

So either the spring isn't keeping enough tension or the belt is too long? That sucks!



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Posted May 05, 2014 - 07:26 AM

The sale of owners manuals should be illegal. :mad2:  It should be free, available information.


Edited by Capn1805, May 05, 2014 - 09:45 AM.


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Posted May 13, 2014 - 09:48 AM

Report, Ford YT 16H 9607432 1988 with a the Ford 48 inch deck 09GN3683 1987 works fine with a 5/8x48 v-belt.  Picked up one of the Kevlar ones from TSC.  $19.07 later I'm ready to mow.  Hopefully if someone else needs this info in the future they can find it here and not go through the pain and suffering (had to post on a forum and search the internet, so hard right?) I had to endure.

 

Here's the final evaluation.  5/8x48 v-belt is the winner.  If you want it super tight you could try a 47.  If you could get a 47 on you get a permanent solid gold man card and a complimentary Ron Swanson mustache.  I initially had the belt routed incorrectly.  Using my genuinely amazing intellect (common sense after I looked at it for more than 2 seconds) I figured it out on my own.  My idler could use a new spring as well (it's not bad it's just not as good as it could be), but that's a different story.  Once I popped off the spring on the idler pulley the belt went on nicely.

 

Now on to the PTO mystery.

 

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Posted September 26, 2014 - 08:11 AM

Thanks for the info that a $20 5/8x48 v-belt works to replace the PTO belt.

Does anyone know what belt can be used to replace the primary rear wheel drive belt, if ever necessary?






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