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#1 New.Canadian.DB.Owner OFFLINE  

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 06:20 PM

As I mentioned in another thread, I picked up a Newton engine as part of a package deal.  I googled them, but all I can find is one thread on another forum about how Clinton sold out to Newton, which promptly cut back on the tolerances and then went belly up.  Typical story of outsourcing to Asia.

 

Anyone know anymore about them?  For instance, what is the round hole below the breather for?  Or, What is the black rectangle on the shroud for (there are what looks like electrical contacts in there)?

 

 

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Here is the Clinton I got at the same time.  Anyone want to guess what model it is?  It is missing the shroud & data plate.

 

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 07:16 PM

The great black hole is for a kill switch, which is AWOL.

 

The hole below the breather... is something new on me.  Unless I am mistaken, that Clinton (being an aluminum model) is air vane governor controlled.

 

I've always wanted a Newton, just to help tell the story of what happened to Clinton.  The Newtons are much cheaper from my understanding.  The castings are rougher, for example.

 

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 07:20 PM

The second Clinton looks like a 700 series to me, probably a 700A.  It is newer than a B700 because of the waves in the head.  The only way to know is to pull the cylinder head and measure the bore. 

 

It also has the "straight shroud" of a 700.

 

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Posted April 18, 2014 - 09:00 PM

I took the head off the Clinton tonight.  Bore is 2".  Stroke is about 1.84" (1.900" @ bottom - 0.060" at top).  

 

I also pulled the base off.  Glad I did.  The end play was .033", likely because someone used silicone to make a .030" gasket.  I also found the connecting rod bolts to be less than finger tight. Some people might call it "just sitting there".  The governor shaft is moving freely again.  Someone had stuffed it in to far.

 

 

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Posted April 18, 2014 - 10:39 PM

i'm not sure what gasket you're talking about but if its the one between the mag plate and the block, puting a thicker gasket in there will increase the end play.



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Posted April 18, 2014 - 11:10 PM

Yes, that's the one.  I have replaced it with a thinner, NOS gasket and the end play is back in spec.



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Posted April 18, 2014 - 11:16 PM

I must have read it wrong. I thought that gasket was paper thin but it's been a while since I was in a Clinton.



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Posted April 19, 2014 - 08:59 PM

The gasket is paper thin.  That was the problem: buddy made a .030" one using silicone. It was way to thick for the job.  I replaced it with a paper gasket & the end play is back in spec.  Now if I could only get strong spark!  



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Posted July 02, 2014 - 09:16 PM

please keep us updated, I mean me :)  I just aquired a d700 clinton and it needs some help.  Will love to hear more about your findings and final product.



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Posted July 02, 2014 - 09:45 PM

please keep us updated, I mean me :)  I just aquired a d700 clinton and it needs some help.  Will love to hear more about your findings and final product.

What help do you require.



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Posted July 02, 2014 - 10:26 PM

im about to tear apart the d700, but im in need of a few parts.  Just curious if you had a good source for parts, or should I just run through the internet?

Also, seems there is little publication about the d700 series.  Im looking into the proper color, fuel filter ( glass bowl?) and points



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Posted July 03, 2014 - 04:51 AM

im about to tear apart the d700, but im in need of a few parts.  Just curious if you had a good source for parts, or should I just run through the internet?

Also, seems there is little publication about the d700 series.  Im looking into the proper color, fuel filter ( glass bowl?) and points

The fuel filter is the glass bowl type called a sediment bowl made by Tillotson, the one you would require uses the wire type shut off valve.

The ignition magneto (coil) is Phelon, i should have the replacement ignition points if you need it, Ben, our fourm sponsor of Old Paths Equipment should have the replacement points too and may have the air cleaner you need.

 

Before you order points, pop off the flywheel and have a look, it may be fine and just need to be cleaned and filed.

 

I'll pull up the part number for the points, as for the air filter it depends on which type and the build variation of your D700, 5 types were offered.


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Posted July 03, 2014 - 09:33 AM

Thanks trowel for your comments. I'm wanting to use as much original as possible for this engine
Here's the id tag off the engine

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It appears that the carb filter was a site mesh with plastic base, pull string start. I ask about the fuel filter because it looks likes there never was one on the engine? Which would be odd.
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Posted July 03, 2014 - 09:36 AM

It appears that the carb filter was a site mesh with plastic base, pull string start. I ask about the fuel filter because it looks likes there never was one on the engine? Which would be odd.


Sorry wire mesh style air filter
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Posted July 03, 2014 - 06:09 PM

Sorry wire mesh style air filter

No biggie, sounds like you have the late model, i see the typical red in the photo.

 

Wire type, checking the manual now, I don't think i have that style to sell but i will look anyways, check with Ben, he might have one or.

 

It may have never have had a sediment bowl, the manual will tell when i run your type number.






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