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#1 soboss34 OFFLINE  

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Posted April 04, 2014 - 10:38 PM

I just purchased a used Toro 17-44 HXL in great shape.  When I picked it up, it started and  ran and moved forward and reverse.  Got home, started it in bed of my pickup and drove it down my ramps.  It bogged a bit in a small pile of sand that was at end of ramps, but went over it.  I stopped on flat ground and it died.  Now I can't even start it.  No juice-headlights don't even go on, and I noticed the parking brake lever is loose and doesn't engage the parking brake.  What happened???  More important...what do I do to fix it??


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Posted April 04, 2014 - 10:57 PM

There will be someone along shortly who can help and welcome to GTT



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Posted April 04, 2014 - 11:04 PM

I had a pickup a while back whose battery just died while driving . Not good ,but it happened . Maybe just a switch went south being bumped .



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Posted April 05, 2014 - 12:24 AM

:welcometogttalk:



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Posted April 05, 2014 - 03:39 AM

Welcome to GTT. First, make sure a safety switch isn't stopping it. Sit on the seat, step on the brake, make sure the mower is disengauged and try it. If it doesnt start, you need a test light or a volt meter. Start at the battery. Make sure it is fully charged and that the battery cables are making good contact. From there you will need to test the various connections. Take some pictures and post them here for us to get a better look. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted April 05, 2014 - 05:35 AM

BOY OH BOY the PO knew just when to sell that one huh?

 

Trouble-shoot your main electrical circuit..  Start @ the battery and check/clean connections (Ground too!) and check fuses to find your trouble..  If nothing there, you have a wire busted..  

 

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Posted April 05, 2014 - 07:00 AM

:welcometogttalk: Check all connections.



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Posted April 05, 2014 - 07:18 AM

welcome aboard



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Posted April 05, 2014 - 07:34 AM

There should be a fuse somewhere, do check that FIRST.  Then check to be sure the ground from battery is good.  Once that is done, then you can use a volt meter to see that voltage is getting to the key switch.   Then, starting at the key switch, keep checking down the line for voltage till you find a break in voltage.  As said, there are many safety switches that can cause the engine to die, but they are usually tied into the kill circuit, which is just grounding out the magneto, and not a part of the 12VDC power circuit.  Being your headlights have no power, I suspect either a bad connection at or before the key switch, or the key switch itself.   

  Not knowing your unit to know anything particular about it, the above is just general.  As far as the parkign brake, likely just an adjustment needed, or the brake material may be worn too far to be adjusted.


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Posted April 05, 2014 - 07:38 AM

:welcometogttalk:  Not familiar with your model, but, It maybe the fuse or a loose connection at the battery. If it is the fuse, you need to determine why it blew. Look for bare wire touching the frame. Let us know what you find. Good luck, I hope it is an easy fix.


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Posted April 05, 2014 - 10:09 AM

It does sound like a bad connection somewhere. I'd give the whole electric system a good inspection looking for bad connections, broken, burnt or chafed wires etc. These older tractors tend to accumulate bad connections due to heat, vibration and corrosion. 


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Posted April 05, 2014 - 10:10 AM

There should be a pile of manuals you can download from Toro. You need the model number and serial number to do it here

https://lookup3.toro...est/request.cfm

 

If you don't have the numbers go here

https://lookup3.toro...fm?xCaller=Toro

Do a search for

17-44HXL

with a dash and no spaces.

That will bring them all up so you can see the model numbers and the serial numbers that are required at the first link.

 

Some wiring diagrams are for each circuit making it easier to trace.

 

Garry


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Posted April 05, 2014 - 11:10 AM

Welcome to GTtalk.  Some good advice above, the only thing I would add is you should be seeing at least 12.5 volts at the battery.  But from your description I would also suspect a bad connection some where as others have suggested.


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Posted April 05, 2014 - 01:03 PM

Thank you to everybody who posted. Great advice. I've been figuring it's an electrical issue and I'll post what I find on here. Wish me luck!!!!
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Posted April 05, 2014 - 06:24 PM

I have to agree with all the above suggestions, but I do want to say, :welcometogttalk: , and :wewantpics:






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