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#1 WesJ OFFLINE  

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Posted April 03, 2014 - 06:45 PM

I have a Cub Cadet 125 and I use HyTran in the hydrostatic. Is there any reason I can't use HyTran in my "new" Ford 165. I can't think of any reason it would hurt but I want to be sure before I do. Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Posted April 03, 2014 - 06:54 PM

:wave: Welcome to the forum! I can't think of any reason not to use it!



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Posted April 03, 2014 - 07:18 PM

Hytran is fine, Dexron III, and SAE30wt motor oil as well as 15w40 motor oil.


Edited by olcowhand, April 04, 2014 - 07:28 AM.

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Posted April 03, 2014 - 07:48 PM

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Posted April 04, 2014 - 04:16 AM

Dextron ll is too thin and Eaton had a bulletin about not using it .
Hytran is perfect for them as it is a good 30wt hydraulic oil with high anti foaming additives. Atf is not designed for high pressure applications like hydraulic oils are.
Also automatic transmissions also need friction enhansers for the clutch materials they use.. Bad for hydraulic systems.
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Posted April 04, 2014 - 05:23 AM

Keith , what pressures is the Dextron good up to ?  I could have sworn we used to use that in our old bucket trucks but I think in those trucks the relief was set at 2000psi  

Oh yea ,,,Welcome to GTTalk   WesJ !



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Posted April 04, 2014 - 05:39 AM

I use the JD hygard 20D low viscosity fluid. That is what is recommended for the newer JD hydros. My GT's are all Sundstrand hydros. Amsoil makes a synthetic hydrostatic fluid if you want to spend a little more. IME using it in my compact tractor it reduces heat and improves operating speed when the tractor is cold.


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Posted April 04, 2014 - 06:06 AM

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Posted April 04, 2014 - 07:22 AM

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Posted April 04, 2014 - 07:31 AM

Dextron ll is too thin and Eaton had a bulletin about not using it .
Hytran is perfect for them as it is a good 30wt hydraulic oil with high anti foaming additives. Atf is not designed for high pressure applications like hydraulic oils are.
Also automatic transmissions also need friction enhansers for the clutch materials they use.. Bad for hydraulic systems.

 

I meant to type Dexron III, so was the bulletin for Dex III as well?  ATF type F is what is called for in the John Deere F935 Sundstrand, and ATF is also called for in the Eaton 11 on the MTD 990 & others.  



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Posted April 04, 2014 - 08:50 AM

I meant to type Dexron III, so was the bulletin for Dex III as well?  ATF type F is what is called for in the John Deere F935 Sundstrand, and ATF is also called for in the Eaton 11 on the MTD 990 & others.  

Daniel, I just uploaded the Service Memo for the Eaton Fluid recommendations.


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Posted April 04, 2014 - 09:19 AM

Dextron lll is a synthetic product so has better shear factors but mayprovide the viscosity required.
A true piston pump would not mind the stuff but most of the others atf is just too thin.
Alc, it is good for for any psi as long as the tolerance is there for hydraulics.
For example; bushing clearance in an automatic trans. .002-.004
In a hydraulic application for say 3500psi you need to hold .0008-.00015 anything greater could cause extrusion of seals and such.

Edited by skyrydr2, April 04, 2014 - 09:23 AM.


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Posted April 05, 2014 - 11:00 PM

Thanks for all the info guys! I'll stick with the Hytran for both. Pics of the Cub coming in the next day or so. The Ford will be a little longer as I have all of the body off.




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