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#1 Bob IN OFFLINE  

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Posted March 15, 2014 - 07:27 PM

Im kind of thinking about getting a hit and miss engine or a throttle governed engine. Im looking at an international lb engine. The guy wants $175 for it. Its complete. Doesn't run. I don't know much about them so I guess im asking if anyone on here has any experience with them? Good price? Things to look out for? Thank you.  Im including an example picture.

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Posted March 15, 2014 - 07:41 PM

What are you going to use it for? At the Zagray shows there is usually a buggy powered by a small hit or miss engine. I think that it is an old Cub Cadet with several seats added. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted March 15, 2014 - 07:55 PM

My uncle had one of thoses, heavy little engine but very neat. Could see you using one to power a flower mill.



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Posted March 15, 2014 - 08:06 PM

   I would love to find a hit and miss for a reasonable price,  I have an old cider mill here that I want to power with it.  good luck.


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Posted March 15, 2014 - 09:42 PM

IH LA & LB engines are a good one to start with.  They are easy to work on and parts are available.  They are not a high dollar engine so it is easy to get way more $$ into one than you could get back if that is a concern.  They are a throttle governed engine and are great for display at a show, running a pump, generator or grain mill. If the one you are looking at is really complete with a good mag, and gas tank, not stuck and not really rusty I'd say you were OK. If it is missing the mag or tank is badly rusted or the engine is stuck you will want to look further or negotiate a much lower price. 


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Posted March 15, 2014 - 10:13 PM

:ditto:

 

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Posted March 16, 2014 - 11:41 AM

I've always wanted to try to build one from scratch...

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Posted March 16, 2014 - 06:44 PM

If its complete thats a good thing. I got an lb from a family member but its missing a few parts. Unfortunately to restore it i think will cost more than what its worth. So basically its a really heavy piece of metal i got in the corner. The flip side you can find parts for them easily and they repro some parts too. Maybe someday i will mess with it. Those little scale i see at engine shows i think are kinda neat

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Posted March 17, 2014 - 05:52 PM

Im kind of thinking about getting a hit and miss engine or a throttle governed engine. Im looking at an international lb engine. The guy wants $175 for it. Its complete. Doesn't run. I don't know much about them so I guess im asking if anyone on here has any experience with them? Good price? Things to look out for? Thank you.  Im including an example picture.

Here is a couple things you might want to know.

 The International Lb superseded The La models.Both the!11/2 -21/2 and 3-5 horsepower available through 1948.A gasoline carburetor was furnished as regular equipment,but both could be equipped with kerosene or natural gas carburetors.Production of the 1 1/2- 21/2 peaked at 16,600 units in 1947,with a total of 85,904 engines between !941 and 1948,49,845 of the 3-5 hp lb engines were built.

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 Only 11/2 quarts of oil was required for the crankcase,2 gallon fuel tank and the water hopper holds four gallons

62614 to 66393-1941

66394 to 72943-1942

72944 to 76060-1943

76061 to 86647-1944

86648 to 100998-1945

100999 to 114787-1946

114788 to 130393-1947

130394 to 148518-1948

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   This info is from the book 150 years of International Harvester 


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Posted April 04, 2014 - 10:17 PM

Here's the two I have at home. One is a 3 hp fairbanks morse and it is throttle governed and the other one is a Jager engine built by hercules that is 2 hp and hit and missIMG_20140330_165653.jpg IMG_20140318_173221.jpg

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Posted April 05, 2014 - 12:01 AM

If the engine your looking at has the cover on the hopper take it off. Take a flashlight and look in the hopper. What your looking for is signs of pitting inside the hopper and on the cylinder. Shallow pitting is not a problem. Take your hand and reach under the cylinder and feel for large pits under there in both the outer cylinder wall and the hopper wall. This is where cracks and the worst pitting is usually found. The cylinder head is another place where frost cracks are commonly located do to improper draining. Other than that if it turns over, has good compression and is complete your probably good to go at that price. They were good reliable engines in their day.


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