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#1 ejg593 OFFLINE  

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Posted March 08, 2014 - 04:21 PM

About a year ago I moved to a new house w/an acre lot.  Picked up an '83 John Deere 212 (brand new engine) to help w/the chores.  The only issue I've had with it is traction- slips a bit on wet grass, but most problems in snow going up any incline.  I plowed the driveway without much issue, but deep snow or uphill & I just spin.  It has turf tires, but also has the concrete wheel weights that help...just not enough.  What do you guys suggest to give me the extra grip I'm looking for?  Different tires (like bar/lug), tire chains, rubber tread chains (like TerraGrip), more rear weights...?  Thanks in advance! 


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Posted March 08, 2014 - 04:53 PM

Welcome to GTT. The first trick is to eat a hearty meal. Second lower the tire pressure alittle. If those don't work chains are the next option. I get old car chains at tag sales for a few dollars and cut them down. The other thing is to layout your work to only be going downhill where it is steep. Good Luck, Rick



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Posted March 08, 2014 - 05:06 PM

I got chains on my 214 now weights and plows good



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Posted March 08, 2014 - 05:21 PM

Chains, new turf tires, or a tire upgrade to something like these:

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The 120 that these are on would slide like crazy on wet grass since the original tires were hard.  


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Posted March 08, 2014 - 05:55 PM

The tires on that 120 look like one answer. Carlisle All Trail. A really good all around tire. I'll second lowering the pressure as a big help. On my JD314 I lowered it to the point where I was getting some tire squat. This really improved traction when using a box blade.  The rubber on old tires gets hard and looses some of it's ability to grip. If you have them pumped up hard then fine tuning things a bit may be all that's needed. 


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Posted March 08, 2014 - 07:13 PM

I can't tell you much about snow, but here are some of my experiences.

Turfs are good for relatively flat lawns, not much traction and clog up easily with grass.

All Terrain is much better for traction but will still clog up with mud and I assume snow

AGS will dig to China if you let them. No clogging issues but will tear up the yard.

 

  

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Posted March 08, 2014 - 09:07 PM

Here are a few more pics of the tires on the 120.

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Posted March 08, 2014 - 10:18 PM

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I like what you have done to your JD 120 ( nice spray on for the foot rest)


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Posted March 08, 2014 - 11:29 PM

I'm running ags with wheel weights on my 214 and have some of the same traction issues you are having.My next addition will be a good set of 2 link chains also I've got a good set of turfs on rims that I'm considering filling with washer fluid to run in place of the ags next winter as well.



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Posted March 09, 2014 - 06:42 AM

AG tires are not a good choice for winter in my experience. No one tire can do it all. You need chains to deal with ice. If you are doing mostly garden work and work in mud or sand a lot then AGs are probably the best choice. If you do mostly turf work then I would spring for the All Trails. I've used tractors with those tires on them and they were very grippy on turf when going up steep hills or over rough terrain.  A good compromise tire that looks good and performs very well. 



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Posted March 09, 2014 - 06:44 AM

Here are a few more pics of the tires on the 120.

 

That 120 is sweet Travis!! You don't see many of them. I never noticed that the fender deck on a 120 does not have the cutout for a 3pt. that the 300 series has. 


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Posted March 09, 2014 - 07:50 AM

I got the 120 in a few uncomfortable situations at my old place that would have been a disaster with the old tires but not the case with the All-Trails.  Well worth the money for me.  These All-Trails will likely end up on my 312 which will be a dedicates snow blowing machine and the 120 will get new turfs that match the front.



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Posted March 09, 2014 - 12:07 PM

Trav1s' use of the All-Trail got me to buy them for my 318. I love them. I have a steep backyard, and even steeper hill to get from the walkout level to the front yard. These work great. I have chains but don't use them. Too bad you don't live closer. I also have a set of chains off my old 140 (adapted from car chains like someone said above) that I would probably give you if they yould fit.

Here's the Csrlyle All-Trails on my 318.

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Posted March 13, 2014 - 07:57 PM

I use ag tires on the rear and three rib on the front on all my tractors. Summer and winter. Lots of traction for snow and don't mark up lawn when grass cutting. Three rib very good for winter use. Not stuck as much with three rib because you can steer out instead of sliding ahead and back.





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