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#16 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted February 22, 2014 - 10:01 AM

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Posted February 22, 2014 - 12:51 PM

I've got a 400 with a 3cyl yanmar gas (from a 322) repower. The hard part about the repower is finding room for the radiator. Check out the link to my thread in my signature. What are you plans for the tractor? If you don't need a lot of power I would recommend the shorter 2cyl engine.



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Posted February 25, 2014 - 11:36 PM

Plans for the tractor. Are to use the 35 tiller, turning soil and just getting dirty. So, the 26 might be out of the question, but..... Call it a strange and crazy idea since both my tractors are running. I am thinking about taking the engine out of the kubota (19hp) put that into the 400 and pick up another engine, roughly 26 hp and put that in huge kubota?..... Crazy, stupid, or just someone with a lot of time.

Here's my options.
1. Throw the 1105-e into the 400
2. Find another engine, around 20ish hp
3. Take the d950 out of the kubota, put that into the Jd. Then throw in a engine similar to the d1105-e back into the kubota.


What's your thoughts.

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Posted February 27, 2014 - 04:53 AM

If you don't already have the 1105 d engine, just look for another one that size. Those mowing machines are everywhere and pretty inexpensive comparatively . you really don't want one from an excavator because you will most likely need to get a different flywheel and starter, most have wacky bell housings and starters because of the pump drives.
Walker mowers seem to be good for Kubota engines and they have a nice package of engine and radiator that would probably fit with out much fadoodling.

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Posted February 27, 2014 - 03:43 PM

Diesel,

Is there a difference within the d1105 series? I snapped a shot, and the block is a 1105, but a 1105-e.

Again, if love to tear it out and put it into the 400, but can't put a good machine down.

So, I'm looking for a engine, wish me luck.

The 1105e is what I have. They have another variation of the d1105t. The T=turbo.Its rated at 32hp with it. It is a pretty big motor and you can tell by looking at it. Trust me I know Lol trying to shoe horn the 1105 into a quite line series cub and just so enough that the side shields actually fit!



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Posted March 16, 2014 - 08:07 AM

I have been looking more into a situation that I am in.  I have the D905 im my kubota b8200, and the D1105-e in the jacobsen, both seem to be from the same block. see below

 

Model   D905-E D1005-E D1105-E D1105-TE V1305-E V1505-E V1505-TE Type   Vertical, 4-cycle liquid-cooled diesel Number of Cylinders   3 3 3 3 4 4 4 Bore x Stroke in.(mm) 2.83 x 2.90 (72 x 73.6) 2.99 x 2.90(76 x 73.6) 3.07 x 3.09(78 x 78.4) 3.07 x 3.09(78 x 78.4) 2.99 x 2.90(76 x 73.6) 3.07 x 3.09(78 x 78.4) 3.07 x 3.09 (78 x 78.4) Total Displacement cu.in.(cc) 54.86(898) 61.12(1001) 68.53(1123) 68.53(1123) 81.50(1335) 91.44(1498) 1498 / 91.44 Combustion System   Spherical (E-TVCS) SAE Net Intermit. HP HP @ rpm 20.0 @ 3000
23.5 @ 3600 22.5 @ 3000
26.0 @ 3600 25.0 @ 3000 26.4 @ 3000 rpm 30.0 @3000
34.5 @ 3600 33.5 @ 3000 42 @ 3000 SAE Net Cont. HP HP @ rpm 17.0 @ 3000
20.5 @ 3600 19.0 @ 3600
22.5 @ 3600 22.0 @ 3000 22.0 @ 3000 25.5 @ 3000
30.0 @ 3600 29.0 @ 3000 36.5 @ 3000 No Load High Idling Speed rpm 3800 3800 3200   3800 3200 3200 No Load Low Idling Speed rpm 800 800 800   800 800 800 Governing   Centrifugal flyweight mechanical type governor Direction of Rotation   Counterclockwise from flywheel side Starter V x kW 12 x 1.0 12 x 1.0 12 x 1.0 12 x 1.0 12 x 1.2 12 x 1.2 12 x 1.2 Alternator V x W 12 x 360 12 x 360 12 x 360   12 x 360 12 x 360 12 x 360 Fuel   Diesel fuel No. 2-D (ASTM D975) Dry Weight with rear-end plate lbs. (kg) 205 (93) 205 (93) 205 (93) 214 (97) 243 (110) 243 (110) 251 (114) Dry Weight with SAE flywheel housing lbs. (kg) 243 (110) 243 (110) 243 (110)   280 (127) 280 (127) 289 (131)

 

So, it looks promising to just pull the old engine out of the kubota, put that into the JD after an overhaul and then throw the 1105 into the b8200?????


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Posted March 16, 2014 - 02:23 PM

5 series engines all share the same block. The 905,1005,and 1105 are all the same block. Just have different injectors and bore. And as far as the different hp's, its just where the governor spring is set.


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Posted March 23, 2014 - 09:02 PM

Well, things are finally moving forward with this. UTsmitty gave me a heads up on a mitsubishi L3E locally,and all it needs is a freeze plug and radiator. I hope to have it running by wee evening, and get some ideas for the transplant.

I checked in the manual section to see if there was a manual for the L3E, but no luck. Any one have a manual for this engine? I will get the model number tomorrow.

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Posted March 23, 2014 - 10:25 PM

Well, things are finally moving forward with this. UTsmitty gave me a heads up on a mitsubishi L3E locally,and all it needs is a freeze plug and radiator. I hope to have it running by wee evening, and get some ideas for the transplant.

I checked in the manual section to see if there was a manual for the L3E, but no luck. Any one have a manual for this engine? I will get the model number tomorrow.

 

You must not have looked very carefully, 'cause I just found an L3E repair manual, and brochures with dimensions, etc. ('Course, I just uploaded them to the manuals section, a couple minutes ago...) :smilewink:


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Posted March 23, 2014 - 10:27 PM

Now, you realize that I need a radiator, too, because the one I got with mine is too wide to fit under the Bolens' hood?  So let's see what we can find and order 2 if possible.  Seems to me someone used a radiator out of a Honda for a diesel repower--Daniel was that you???

 

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Posted March 23, 2014 - 11:03 PM

I found a couple on ebay for small engine, here's the specs.


Small Engine Radiator

Size (approximately): 14.75” long, 14.25” tall (including mounting brackets), 11” tall (core only), 1.5” thick

20mm inlet/outlet diameter

9.5” between inlet/outlet


Or another
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Size (approximately): 15” (380 mm) long, 11.4” (290 mm) tall (including mounting brackets), 8.7" (220 mm) tall (core only), 1.25" (32 mm) thick core

3/4" inlet/outlet fittings

Inlet/outlet fittings as shown on listing #280580742611

100% aluminum radiator, single pass
Radiator Cap
13 psi opening
· SAE mini class

Temperature Switch

180 F ON (close on rise); 150 OFF temperatures
Brass body
M16 x 1.5 Thread
100 mm (4") wire leads

Sounds like we get to run these two conversions together

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Posted March 24, 2014 - 05:10 AM

Yeah, I thought it would be helpful since we're using the same engine. However, I just remembered that the JD drives from the front of the engine so there will be some differences in our installation.

I have already worked out the English measurement IF I can find where I put them.

BTW, we need to make sure we find a radiator with enough cooling capacity--probably more than comparable auto engine since the fan provides all the air flow. Look for something with the same or larger hose connections as the engine block. The radiator on my engine has a core that is 16" wide and about 17 long, not counting tanks and brackets, IIRC. We can use it to do test runs on the engine, but it won't fit under the hoods of either of our tractors.

Sounds like you bought the engine--do you know what caused the freeze plug to pop out?

Regards,

Smitty

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Posted March 26, 2014 - 10:45 PM

Well, it lives!  Changed the oil, still had a factory oil filter, with little left in it.  We took a good 1/2 hr trying to get it bled out from air, and finally got it smokin!  Took the valve cover off after noticing a amount of oil in the intake.  Some were well over .040, needing only .010.  After the adjustment, this baby purrs, just wish I had a radiator to run it a little longer than what I could do before the coolant came out.

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Posted March 26, 2014 - 10:56 PM

Heres a quick video shot right at the end of tonights activity.  I didnt have the radiator, so we filled it with a mix just to get 25-45 sec run time.  Hope you enjoy!

 

https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be


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Posted March 27, 2014 - 05:18 AM

Heres a quick video shot right at the end of tonights activity.  I didnt have the radiator, so we filled it with a mix just to get 25-45 sec run time.  Hope you enjoy!
 


Glad to see you got it running!!
I'll bring my radiator over tomorrow or Saturday so you can try it. BTW I would'nt mix anti freeze if it runs on the ground. AF has a sweet taste, but is very poisonous and annimals are attractec to it.

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