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#16 bowtiebutler956 OFFLINE  

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Posted February 13, 2014 - 09:09 PM

 Thanks for all the kind words guys! :thumbs:

 I got the 444 running today, and this thing is a real mosquito fogger!  :rolling:  Thats ok though, as the previous owner already told me it was. All the hydraulics work as they should, and it drives well. I really enjoyed riding this around some, but it was a bit of a challenge to keep from choking to death on the exhaust! :bigrofl:  I really love this machine.

 I pulled the head off the engine after shooting this video today. I found a badly blown head gasket, and the crown of the piston closest to the exhaust valve was burned away enough that I can see the top ring! :hitting_self_roller:  No wonder it was smoking! The good news is the cylinder is still STD bore, and next to no wear ridge at the top either. There is some light scratching in the cylinder, but I think most would clean up with a hone. I'm trying to decide whether I want to take it, and have it bored .010, or save some time, and money by honing it myself, and putting a new STD piston, rings, etc...  Anyway, here is a video, and some pics. Thanks

 

Matt

 

https://www.youtube....aJwAOfuqRo#t=29

 

 

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Posted February 13, 2014 - 09:42 PM

I'd say you got a great deal on that Case Matt! Now you just need to find a FEL for it. Then you could have a nice setup .

How bad is the shipping on the tires from Nebraska tire? They have some good prices on tires. Just might have to give them a call on some.
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Posted February 13, 2014 - 09:56 PM

I'd say you got a great deal on that Case Matt! Now you just need to find a FEL for it. Then you could have a nice setup .

How bad is the shipping on the tires from Nebraska tire? They have some good prices on tires. Just might have to give them a call on some.

 Thanks Nate, and an FEL would be AWESOME! Maybe one day.

 Nate, they only charged me $25 per tire! They're prices are great, and they're very friendly. My tires should be here Monday, and I'll let you know more then. :thumbs:

 

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Posted February 13, 2014 - 11:01 PM

 Thanks for all the kind words guys! :thumbs:

 I got the 444 running today, and this thing is a real mosquito fogger!  :rolling:  Thats ok though, as the previous owner already told me it was. All the hydraulics work as they should, and it drives well. I really enjoyed riding this around some, but it was a bit of a challenge to keep from choking to death on the exhaust! :bigrofl:  I really love this machine.

 I pulled the head off the engine after shooting this video today. I found a badly blown head gasket, and the crown of the piston closest to the exhaust valve was burned away enough that I can see the top ring! :hitting_self_roller:  No wonder it was smoking! The good news is the cylinder is still STD bore, and next to no wear ridge at the top either. There is some light scratching in the cylinder, but I think most would clean up with a hone. I'm trying to decide whether I want to take it, and have it bored .010, or save some time, and money by honing it myself, and putting a new STD piston, rings, etc...  Anyway, here is a video, and some pics. Thanks

 

Matt

 

https://www.youtube....aJwAOfuqRo#t=29

I had a CC102 with a slightly scuffed cylinder wall due to a mouse nest in the fins the PO didn't clean out. Often you can just hone them out and they'll seal up fine and you're good to go--gives extra years of life to your engine as opposed to losing .010" of bore...

 

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Posted February 14, 2014 - 08:55 AM

I had a CC102 with a slightly scuffed cylinder wall due to a mouse nest in the fins the PO didn't clean out. Often you can just hone them out and they'll seal up fine and you're good to go--gives extra years of life to your engine as opposed to losing .010" of bore...

 

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 That is my thought as well. If I can get by with just a hone, thats the way I will go, as I prefer to have a good thick cylinder wall.  :thumbs:

 

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Posted February 14, 2014 - 06:16 PM

I just bought a 444 myself.
That tiller has an extension that can be moved to the other side to use offset.
Don't know if that's really useful. But, is interesting!

Myself, I'd hone the cylinder and try it.

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Posted February 14, 2014 - 06:42 PM

This will keep the hours off Gary's 222!

 

Great find, that would sold much higher around here.


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Posted February 15, 2014 - 08:18 PM

I just bought a 444 myself.
That tiller has an extension that can be moved to the other side to use offset.
Don't know if that's really useful. But, is interesting!

Myself, I'd hone the cylinder and try it.

Joe

 Thanks Joe, and I'd love to see a pic of your 444. I have decided to just give it a hone. :thumbs:

 

This will keep the hours off Gary's 222!

 

Great find, that would sold much higher around here.

 Yes it will keep the wear off Gary's Case!  :D   I felt like I got a great deal, even with it needing work. :thumbs:

 

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Posted February 15, 2014 - 08:32 PM

Well, I got the engine off the 444, and got it tore down. Things really look quite good inside, which blows me away, with the way this thing was smoking! A very brief hone of the cylinder cleaned it right up. Its not perfect, but it is good. The crank looks really good as well, and even the rod had very minimal wear. I cleaned the block up, and cleaned the intake, and exhaust ports. I went ahead, and ordered a master rebuild kit for it, that has piston, rings, rod, valves, gaskets, and seals. Here are a few pics from today. Thanks

 

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Posted February 15, 2014 - 09:06 PM

Wow! That did clean up nice!
Have the valve chambers been polished?

Here's a pic of my 444.
It's a 1980 long frame.
That thing on the front is for moving snow.
A white suger like substance that falls from the sky up here!

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Posted February 15, 2014 - 09:22 PM

Wow! That did clean up nice!
Have the valve chambers been polished?

Here's a pic of my 444.
It's a 1980 long frame.
That thing on the front is for moving snow.
A white suger like substance that falls from the sky up here!

Joe
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 Thanks, and yes I polished the ports. I didn't grind away any material, I just used an emery drum roll on my die grinder to smooth, and remove the sharp edges from the casting. 

 That is a great looking 444!! Looks to be in very solid original condition.  :thumbs:  How much longer is the frame as opposed to an old 444 like mine.

 Snow???  :say_what:  The closest thing to that, that I have seen, is the stuff that builds up on the walls of my freezer. :bigrofl:  You say it comes out of the sky up your way? I'm glad I don't live up there! :rolling:

 

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Posted February 15, 2014 - 09:42 PM

Case made the frame longer to accommodate a 60" mower.
They added 2 or 3 inches between the steering tower and the seat.
It really helps if you've got big feet!

It's snowing now. I just bought this case.
No chains or weights means it won't move at all in snow.
I don't really need it to move snow. But I would like to see the blower work!
I think I'll order some chains. Weights are hard to come by.

Joe
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Posted February 15, 2014 - 09:50 PM

Case made the frame longer to accommodate a 60" mower.
They added 2 or 3 inches between the steering tower and the seat.
It really helps if you've got big feet!

It's snowing now. I just bought this case.
No chains or weights means it won't move at all in snow.
I don't really need it to move snow. But I would like to see the blower work!
I think I'll order some chains. Weights are hard to come by.

Joe

 Thanks for the info Joe. :thumbs:

As big as the rear tires are on these machines, I bet you could add alot of weight just by filling the tires.

 

Matt



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Posted February 16, 2014 - 10:07 PM

Haven't done much but I did get around to going thru the carburetor. At some point in its life it had the carb replaced, as it has a Walbro WHG #60 on it, and I don't believe Kohler used Walbro back in 74. It is an older Walbro, as it has fully adjustable main, and idle mixture screws. Its throttle shaft is still tight, which is nice. After soaking in carb dip for about half a day, its squeaky clean, and looks good too. Thanks

 

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Posted February 16, 2014 - 11:45 PM

Don't know when Kohler started using them but you can tell yours is newer style by the brassy cadmium float bowl  older ones were silver in color.


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