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#1 Utah Smitty OFFLINE  

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Posted February 04, 2014 - 11:27 PM

Well, it took some time and effort to get it here, but I just unloaded this:

 

MITSUBISHI L3E RH.jpg MITSUBISHI L3E LH.jpg MITSUBISHI L3E FRT.jpg MITSUBISHI L3E RR.jpg

 

And this--

MITSUBISHI L3E RADIATOR SHROUD FILTER.jpg

 

 

I want to put them into this:                            

 

Bolens HT23.jpg   HT23 LH.jpg

 

I've taken some rough measurements and hope it will work without:

 

--Stretching the frame

 

--Breaking the bank

 

Yet, I also need to be able to use the front and mid mount PTO... and I will be putting either power-assisted steering a'la JD 400, or an orbital valve and cylinder from a Toro 223D.

 

Comments and suggestions are deeply appreciated.

 

 

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Posted February 04, 2014 - 11:36 PM

I have never done a repower so Ican't offer any advice but I will be watching. I looks like a good project.



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Posted February 04, 2014 - 11:54 PM

I have never done a repower so Ican't offer any advice but I will be watching. I looks like a good project.

A question off topic... is a Bolens G11XL worth anything?  I know a guy that has one--started to disassemble it, but I think all the parts are there...

 

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Posted February 04, 2014 - 11:59 PM

A question off topic... is a Bolens G11XL worth anything?  I know a guy that has one--started to disassemble it, but I think all the parts are there...

 

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I'm not sure, that's a newer Bolens then I am used to dealing with.


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Posted February 05, 2014 - 12:05 AM

I'm not sure, that's a newer Bolens then I am used to dealing with.

Okay, thanks.

 

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Posted February 05, 2014 - 12:06 AM

Looks good smitty and welcome to the diesel club :thumbs: looks like a yanmar? you have any numbers on it?


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Posted February 05, 2014 - 01:12 AM

If the titles of the pics are correct, that's a Mitsubishi L3E that puts out 19.9 Hp. at 3000 RPM.

 

The DGT1700 used the L3A engine which I'm pretty sure is the same physical size, so it should drop into an HT23 with out too much trouble.

 

You might have to extend the front end a bit for the radiator, but that is pretty simple if you do it like Bolens did with the HDT1000.

 

 

 

 


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Posted February 05, 2014 - 08:10 AM

If the titles of the pics are correct, that's a Mitsubishi L3E that puts out 19.9 Hp. at 3000 RPM.
 
The DGT1700 used the L3A engine which I'm pretty sure is the same physical size, so it should drop into an HT23 with out too much trouble.
 
You might have to extend the front end a bit for the radiator, but that is pretty simple if you do it like Bolens did with the HDT1000.


Thanks, OB.

I have some pics of the DGT1700--one was recently on eBay as well. However, I think the DGT engine is mounted backwards. The HDT1000 used a Mitsi 3 cyl also--K3A IIRC. It's heavier than the L3E and maybe a little bigger, so I'm hoping I won't have any problems length-wise.

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Posted February 05, 2014 - 08:16 AM

Looks good smitty and welcome to the diesel club :thumbs: looks like a yanmar? you have any numbers on it?


It's actually a Mitsubishi L3E. This one came out of a mini excavator, but they were also used in mowers, and an earlier version was used in the DGT1700.

My biggest question at the moment is how to ensure that I can run the front PTO off the engine, and how to accurately measure the flywheel bilt pattern so I can hook the driveline to it.

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Posted February 05, 2014 - 09:15 AM

Glad to hear this a diesel repower thread/build because when I first read the thread I thought it was about  a private club that you could smoke at and girls did something with a pole lol  Anyway good luck , I'm sure I'll be reading this as you go along with the build


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Posted February 05, 2014 - 11:21 AM

While looking for a stub shaft for my conversion I learned that most of these small import engines (gas and diesel) use an SAE 5 x 6 1/2 stub shaft.  The SAE standard 6 1/2 uses 6 bolts.  Briggs sells them new for about $200.  I found one on ebay for $40 shipped. 

 

A neighbor of mine has one of the Bolens DGT's.  it is a very nice machine.  He won't sell it to me.  It was a steal at $100 with the deck and snowblower.  Glow plugs weren't working when he got it.


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Posted February 05, 2014 - 01:01 PM

You had me confused by the title. Around these parts a smoke ploe is a reference to a muzzle loader rifle. I think the smoker would be cool in the Bolens.


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Posted February 05, 2014 - 01:35 PM

While looking for a stub shaft for my conversion I learned that most of these small import engines (gas and diesel) use an SAE 5 x 6 1/2 stub shaft.  The SAE standard 6 1/2 uses 6 bolts.  Briggs sells them new for about $200.  I found one on ebay for $40 shipped. 

 

A neighbor of mine has one of the Bolens DGT's.  it is a very nice machine.  He won't sell it to me.  It was a steal at $100 with the deck and snowblower.  Glow plugs weren't working when he got it.

I'll say it was a steal!!!  I've had one or two good deals come along for me, but never something nice as that!!

 

So, is the SAE 5 x 6 1/2  5 holes on a bolt circle 6 1/2" in diameter???

 

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Posted February 05, 2014 - 01:37 PM

You had me confused by the title. Around these parts a smoke ploe is a reference to a muzzle loader rifle. I think the smoker would be cool in the Bolens.

 

Yeah, I thought of that after I made the post... we call Muzzleloaders "smoke poles" as well... oh well!!!!

 

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Posted February 05, 2014 - 01:58 PM

So, is the SAE 5 x 6 1/2  5 holes on a bolt circle 6 1/2" in diameter???

 

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yes, five bolts on 6 1/2" diameter circle.  There seems to be another size that at least yanmar uses.  Here is a pic of what mine looks like.  It came from a Daihatsu in a zero turn mower.

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