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#1 Alc ONLINE  

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Posted February 02, 2014 - 08:53 PM

I  picked 2  Oliver   hilling  shovels (  least that what I think they are )  and mounted them a the DB shanks . But first the cultivator frame needs to be straighten , it was used pretty hard  before me .  Also tried to figure  how to mount the Troy Built   furor maker , right now it works nicely on the Power King's draw bar so maybe a thick bar clamped across the beams .    

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Posted February 03, 2014 - 05:06 AM

That should make a nice setup for you. The frame shouldn't be too difficult straighten out.


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Posted February 03, 2014 - 07:13 AM

Nice hollers Al, those look really similar to a set of empire hillers I found.
Those should do a nice job for you. Hope the frame doesn't straighten hard..
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Posted February 03, 2014 - 09:49 AM

Nice find, yea, was worked hard for sure, now it will be care for.

Yes, it seems a bar or heavy angle iron across the beams with a hitch in the center for the plow. if you have two extra beam clamps like for the shovels you could weld bars or extra shovel shanks onto the ends of the bar/angle iron and clamp it to the frame.


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Posted March 29, 2014 - 09:10 PM

Finally got around to working on the cultivator frame again ,I wanted to be able to mount the Troy Built furrow maker and the shovel  that the  po mounted across the adjustable rear section ,,,it got all bent up from that being mount where it didn't belong . That got straightened in the previous post.  I used a bar from a Sears 3pt ( will the arms cut off ) ,  used some U bolts with small plates to connect it to the cultivator frame , that might need to be changed if the bar twist , we'll see . To mount the po's shovel the clamp needed to be widened so I cut it apart and used the threaded inside plate and welded to the outside .Even with nothing mounted to the new bar I might just clamp it on just to add some strength to the frame   The rollers  had some flat spot worn so a little welding and grinding to the out side and a little to make the roller ID  round again , the mounting pins had flats needing welding too. Next step will be a coat of paint when the weather gets nicer. 

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Posted March 29, 2014 - 09:31 PM

Looking great :thumbs:  good thinking using the DB clamps.


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Posted March 29, 2014 - 09:35 PM

what  you needed here was the parts that make up the southern cultivator, which was model 555. It has a trapezoid that clamps to the top of the main frame and reinforces the whole thing. With a 555 you got the heavy shanks to mount the tooling on. the vator you have is a 110 crank adjust model. Alll the other ones had notches to set the gauge wheels.


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Posted March 29, 2014 - 09:38 PM

what  you needed here was the parts that make up the southern cultivator, which was model 555. It has a trapezoid that clamps to the top of the main frame and reinforces the whole thing. With a 555 you got the heavy shanks to mount the tooling on. the vator you have is a 110 crank adjust model. Alll the other ones had notches to set the gauge wheels.

My favorite to use, triple 5, hard to find though.


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Posted March 29, 2014 - 09:41 PM

Looks like it is a lot better Al, glad you got a few minutes to work on it.
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Posted March 29, 2014 - 09:53 PM

I have a notched cultivator that's not as bent up as this one with the standard sweeps with one bolt holding the shank to the frame .Maybe some day I'll  find one of those HD  frames


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Posted March 30, 2014 - 04:48 AM

My favorite to use, triple 5, hard to find though.

Yes, I've been trying to find one of those since I got into DBs less than 2 years ago. I thought it would be fairly easy to find. Instead I've found what I thought would more difficult items like a seeder, field planter, and rotary brush cutter. All the complete five shank cultivators I've found were not for sale. The closest I've come is some parts for one. I have the trapezoid frame but need the shanks and clamps. One will show up some day.


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Posted March 30, 2014 - 05:01 AM

Good luck with it Al!


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Posted March 30, 2014 - 08:11 AM

Have been in this for over 20 years, only seen a handful of the southern vator and all were owned by collectors.

 

 

Yes, I've been trying to find one of those since I got into DBs less than 2 years ago. I thought it would be fairly easy to find. Instead I've found what I thought would more difficult items like a seeder, field planter, and rotary brush cutter. All the complete five shank cultivators I've found were not for sale. The closest I've come is some parts for one. I have the trapezoid frame but need the shanks and clamps. One will show up some day.

Someday one will pop up for you, just keep up a saving just for these things along with the seeder drill.

 

ALC has the very, very rare little know field planter in very good shape, the only one i have ever seen beyond the line drawings in the manual for it.


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Posted March 30, 2014 - 08:51 AM

I read in the cultivator manual that the gauge wheels are made like they way are is to be self cleaning and helps tracking , being I've never used it for cultivating ( and hopefully furrow maker  )  is that true ? 


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Posted March 30, 2014 - 10:40 AM

Yes, so long as the draft is always centered and the tools counter itselves the wheels will keep everything true, critical when cultivating close to young crops.

 

Adding two wheels to the back of the frame will hold everything true and even better when using the furrow plow, thing i love the most with the wheels is depth control.


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